On being Romanian

Ok, this is sounding more and more like a personal blog, so I will indulge this round again in ranting on my idiosyncrasies. One of these, quite stubborn, as it doesn’t let me live in peace is ‘on being Romanian’ or, more precisely, what it takes to be Romanian. Do you need a special something, a certain ne je sais quoi, to be born, live and act Romanian? Well, a few things, in my view.
First, you should be selfish: if you travel abroad do not get in touch with your fellow citizens, do not help them and do not talk with them. What you can do though, Romanian like, is dissing them with every occasion you get; if it happens than one Romanian is smarter, faster and better than you, then you MUST envy him/her, wish him/her bad luck and quietly pray that he/she will not succeed no matter what. If he/she will strike against all the odds, then you must humiliate this person somehow, find something from the past and splash it out.
Secondly, if you are born Romanian you will not help another Romanian; I have already said that. By the contrary, everything must be a competition die or get dead. No sharing information, no helping hand, no good words, no positive feedback, no harmless good intentions, nothing like it, God forbidden. You are on your own and you must eliminate competition, precisely smarter and better than you. As a Romanian, you simply cannot acknowledge and accept that others are better than you this is impossible. Envy has an un-limited dimension in this country. Not getting me wrong, I know a few projects/groups in Romania, made by Romanians who proved that occasionally solidarity is possible among Romanians: there is a group of young artists promoting each other but also doing common good projects, likewise a few groups helping Romanian students wishing to study abroad and collecting and sharing a huge amount of information pro bono, in the good style of European universities, where students share between themselves lots of ideas, notes, give and receive constructive feedback that will help them do a better job. Also, in any other European country when you meet new young people, you are almost immediately assimilated and introduced to their groups and invited to events and everything goes naturally, effortlessly. In Romania, if you belong to certain group, then is YOUR group and only yours; you will not allow another, a marginal to enter, you keep others aside. If one succeeds in this endeavour, then you have to play alike, fake it until you make it, as everyone does the same, in an all exclusive membership club.
Thirdly, constructive feedback is almost a neologism in this country. You are not allowed to criticize a Romanian, whatever he does. We don’t like critique, constructive or non-constructive is not relevant. We do things better here, our way, and we said that to Europe many times until these dull Europeans got it in their heads, and now Europe must do something to accommodate itself to the Romanian aquis; basically we did not integrate to EU, Europe must integrate in Romania, and that fast. Romanians will use often though this paradigm of ‘constructive feedback’ but is just a euphemism for blunt hostility, anger and a clear intention to smash you in pieces, if possible.
Fourthly, in general, neither Romanians want, nor they care for this country to be better, they care primarily about themselves. Exceptions are allowed, things are warming up a bit in this direction. Politicians do not give a damn; they are unscrupulous, arrogant, self-interested bastards. The people are poor, they strive a lot for the bread, go to pick up strawberries in foreign countries, abandon their children hoping for a better income, journalists are more often than not like small business affiliated to a certain power interest, NGOs likewise so lately, everywhere you perceive self-centred interests and hidden agendas covered up in nice words like soap balloons. The few journalistic investigations uncovering big corruption, money laundering, dodgy business and incompetence have no follow-up, nobody feels any sort of responsibility. How could they? Many ‘big’ journalists made their own business under one or the other of our governments, business people likewise, they lobbied and courted one or the other power centres and usually the most successful business, the one success story started from scratch has a liaison in the political background that we don’t even want to know about. My excuses to the very few serious business people out there, but I don’t know them yet.
Fifthly, Romanians have no shame: they can lie continuously; they will lie into your face without blinking. They also have no respect for their word and no shame. Do not be surprised if you deal with a so called business man, well travelled, and perhaps well educated in a foreign university, who has, under his apparently fine tuned manners, the worst type of impolite behaviour you will meet around these beautiful lands: the hypocritical jerk that will walk over you as soon as you turn your back. Beware; you cannot trust Romanian business men, as you cannot trust a Romanian politician. That so long awaited young political elite is not coming, is it all outside this country already, maybe they will make great politicians and business men in those countries, which treat them as they deserve and where they don’t need to compromise in order to ‘make it’.
Romanians complain a lot too, just look at me here: about themselves, about anyone else, about anything. I am Romanian, so I am not perfect, I am guilty by birth, therefore I should not fume against my fellow citizens, like an ungrateful, but I am just very tired, I regret returning to this country, it seems more and more like the worst decision I have ever made. I will never blame those leaving and not ever wanting to hear what is here. Romania simply does not deserve its good people and I know what it takes to stick around and hang in there and fighting to change things around these places……it is a long and exhausting battle and you must have some commando skills to survive in these volatile valueless grounds.
(photo from Vivid)
joegee said…
Claudia….surely you are speaking with a certain amount of cynicism, hyperbole, and ANGER!! Well, maybe not anger, but I can see fumes rising above every line. This is clearly a blog entry that was written with a lot of passion…dark passion that is. I truly appreciate this rant that you have gone on here, being an American. I could simply leave it there and enough would probably be said, but I think such a fluent tirade of well-placed invectives deserves some closer attention.
I am imagining that all of the wonderful hospitality that was extended to me when I was in Romania last summer was disingenuous. At least you have me thinking that maybe there were some ulterior motives lurking behind all of the acts of kindness, as well as the display of emotion, which, if not sincere, was truly the conduct of consummate actors.
Ok, maybe you are speaking of a different stratum of Romanian society. It seems you’ve implicated the politicians, business people, and journalists on your hit list, but your generalizations seem to reach across the whole country. But what do I know…I was just a visitor there and I only know a few Romanians in a personal way. Over the past two years I have made a sort of informal study of your country and people and I have tried to be objective about what I have learned.
A few things I think I know about Romanians: They can be a very sensitive and caring people who don’t have too many obstacles in their hearts that prevent them from an open and sincere display of that emotion. In America this is not always so…there has been so much artifice in social and business relationships for so long that we seem to be past criticism and outcry, and have assimilated the salesman-with-an-ulterior-motive mentality to such a degree that we question our own reactions and indict ourselves more often than not. Not that we don’t know how to be humane, but our humanity has been polluted by materialism.
I will use your blog entry here as proof text for my point. You have expressed your thoughts and emotions here about what you believe are national character traits of Romanians, a very deep and sensitive subject with an openness and honesty (not to mention articulateness…god, I love the way you use my native language!) that is uncommon here in the U.S. This kind of candid behavior is what creates trust. We here in America are all too often afraid to look in the mirror and face ourselves.
Another thing I believe is that there seems to be a deep generosity in the Romanian spirit. I have seen this. I have been the recipient of it on many occasions, but I think I am taking too much space here. I appreciate your candidness in opening this subject and I am hoping that much more will be written here in response in the future.
03 October, 2006
claudia darian said…
Joegee, if you go around Romania you will find anywhere incredibly nice, open, helpful people. Let’s not mix things up. I was concentrating my fumes against the politicians and influencial people, those who are the opinion makers, some sort of an elite, the analysts, the politicians, the policy makers. The smart people, the sharks.
So, obviously you cannot generalize, but I was talking about common patterns. In any case, I often used to avoid Romanians abroad myself and I know many people doing the same. I easily get along with just anybody but Romanians, they simply annoy me, at least many of them. It is probably a mutual feeling. As I am blunt and provocative here, I would say that I simply don’t like Romanians. As a logical consequence, I dont like myself, but I assume this identity, it always has been a love-hate relationship for many of us.
03 October, 2006
Anonymous said…
u know what… the point is that i am as romanian as u r, and i probably felt somehow similar at the beginnings of my journey, a few years ago. but it’s not that bad, u know… u find similar patterns in other countries and in other ethnic groups. i have no idea why, but we are ashamed to be romanians. and i don’t think it’s fair, coz we have no more and no less sins and shortcomings than other nations. i would say a little … tolerance towards ur own kind can’t hurt. coz, as i said, it’s not as bad as u wanna make it sound like. it’s just nobody is perfect, and romanians are also allowed to be imperfect. plus, there are pros, not only cons, u don’t really talk abt there. and it’s a pity from one point of view, to see a german telling u that “all romanians i’ve met were very smart and sharp” and, on the other hand, a romanian writing abt how bad we are.
bottom line, i am neither ashamed not proud to be romanian. it’s just a label and whoever wants to judge me by it - fine. but it’s wrong to make so general statements, particularly when it comes to 20 smth million..
04 October, 2006
claudia darian said…
Thank you, I really appreciate your comment. Somehow I was wrongly understood and my view was generalized towards the 20 millions Romanians + few more living abroad. I was considering mainly our elite, because we are mostly judged through them by other nations.
I am not ashamed to be Romanian, nor proud too. I am just trying to be realistic. There will be other posts on possitive things and I’ll have a series about Romanians I admire. Romanians are extremely smart and sharp and honest…unfortunately they are not yet the elite of this country; I am sure they will soon. Until then, we got what we have and that’s the idea. In any case, comparing with a few years ago, Romanians are changing very fast for the better.
04 October, 2006
Anonymous said…
well, realistically speaking, romania is no heaven and romanians are no angels, that’s for sure. and in a way i understand u… first time i returned after 1 yr abroad, i felt like dying and i kept wondering “what on earth am i doing here”. everything was dark and my mind was set on leaving. but, after leaving and being away, i realized it’s not so bad… we do lack respect for anything, for authorities, laws, systems (of whatever kind they might be), our fellows and so on. but, sometimes i miss this attitude. when i see how people take things as “by default” i miss the romanian cynicism.
the smart, sharp and western-type romanians won’t be the elite so soon, coz very few of them try to change things. they either stay abroad, where the wheels of the mechanism are turning smoothly, or come back and forget how it is. it depends a lot. but, as a whole, the country and the people are changing. my grandma will always regret the good old communist times and i don’t think she will ever stop being worried for me. but after my grandma is my mom, who is half regretting, half understanding, and after her… well, it’s not me, coz i’m not going back:), but there are people like me and like u, there must be.
maybe it’s my optimistic nature, maybe i miss home too much sometimes, but i don’t think the devil is so dark, to translate a romanian saying:). it’s just different, but u should see worse places… i mean no offence, but i paid a visit to ukraine, and romania is soooo organized and so neat…it’s just an example, i don’t have anything against ukrainians… it’s all about the point of refence - if u lived in germany, for example, u will painfully notice the romanian chaos. but i don’t think romanians are that bad, not even our elites… u know, if we had some more civil society, the elites would look differently. but, being as it is, nobody requires them to be different, to be better. so, they r as we ask them to be (read vote).
still, this will take time. and, if u feel the way u do, better get out of there and make a place for u somewhere else. i mean, regardless what i might tell u, u r not happy there. plus, from the distance, romania and its inhabitants look better
good luck
04 October, 2006
Ryan said…
Hi Claudia, I have been living in Bucharest since this September. What I found people here are warm-hearted and always be ready for help. AND people are diligent. Not any complain even when I asked them to overwork for a long time that would occupy too much their private time. What I think before is that this would only happen in my country.I am from China but I used to be living in western europe(UK,Netherlands) for around 10 years. What I found here Romanian guys are much better than the arrogant people from UK. Luckily I got enough time to investigate coz I suppose to stay here for more time.
Ryan
Ryan
14 October, 2006
claudia darian said…
Hi Ryan and thanks for your comment, I appreciated. It is true Romanians are very open, helpful and diligent with/towards foreigners; it may be an inferiority complex, I don’t know. In any case, I do not wish to generalize, as things have been shifting in this direction; what I meant is that one thing is to be a foreigner and notice from outside and the other to be a local. I guess is everywhere the same; I used to live in Britain for a while and I actually liked and got along well with the Brits. Probably over more years I would have started to perceive the bad traits.
Wish you good luck in Romania and stay in touch.
14 October, 2006
Anonymous said…
No probs. thank you.
I have already add your msn
15 October, 2006
Colleen said…
Hi Claudia,
I live in the US and am married to a Romanian man. He was born in Romania, but moved to the US when he was two. I just happened to come across your blog, and when I began reading it, I could not help but think that you just described my husband’s family. My husband is not like this, but his mother and most of his aunts are exactly the way you described. I do want to say that his family was always very kind towards me and most of them still are. However, your description describes my mother-in-law and father-in-law exactly!! My mother-in-law is one that is very much in competition with all of the other Romanians she knows. When my husband and I go to a relatives home, she wants to know if they have anything new in their home or better than what she has. I have heard her say humiliting things about some of her “close” Romanian friends one day, and then invite them into her home the next. That has always confused me. Why would someone want to humiliate their friends behind their backs, and then act as if nothing was ever said?? That is not something that only Romanians do. Trust me, I have heard plenty of Americans do the same thing. I have also witnessed first hand another Romanian woman, who married my husband’s uncle and has no family in the US, come to my mother-in-law and my husband’s aunt with problems in her marriage and my mother-in-law and his aunt told her to keep her problems to herself. I felt horrible for this woman. She has no one to talk to in the US, except people in her husband’s family, and they do not want to listen or help her. Unfortunetly, she speaks very little English, she has only been in the US for a couple of years and has always been around other Romanians, so was never forced to learn the English language, and I can speak and understand some Romanian, but not enough to have a conversation. When I speak Romanian, you would think that I just finished “Romanina 101″ or taught myself with a book on tape, but hey you cannot look down on me for still trying to learn my husband’s native language that will not help me in the long run, seeing I live in the US. Just for the record, we are attempting to teach our 3 year old and 18 month old sons Romanian.
I know that I have tried to show my mother-in-law ways to do some things different than the way she would normally do things, a way that I thought would be easier and quicker, but she never wanted to hear about it. The way she does things is the right way, and even if your way is easier or quicker, it is still not the right way. We ran into a ton of problems after I had my first son. She wanted me to do things her way and I, of course, wanted to do things my way. Seeing it is my son, I made it very clear to her that things were to be done my way. For instance, she continued telling me that if my son started to run a fever to put vinegar on his feet. I had never heard of doing something like that, and when I mentioned it to one of my Romanian friends, she told me that they did that to her brother in Romania when he had a high fever instead of taking him to the doctor and he died. I explained to my mother-in-law that I agreed some of her
“home remedies” probably would work; however, I was not willing to take a chance when came to my son and that she needed to give him Tylenol or let me know, so I could take him to the doctor. She of course was not happy with that, but thankfully understood that he was our son and not hers.
When you said that Romanians will not help other Romanians, this is very true from what I have seen. My in-laws have helped my husband and I a couple times, and every time they have, they throw it back into our faces, even infront of other people. Competition, well that is their middle name!! We had our first son in 2003 and my mother-in-law threw a shower for us. She paid for the shower, and then also gave us a large amount of money as a gift, which I was not expecting. I am not sure how baby showers are done in Romania, but here they all expect you to open the cards you receive and announce how much money is inside. This was a foreign concept to me, that is until my baby shower. Of course, when I opened my card from my in-laws and read out loud how much they gave us, everyone began clapping. Can you believe, the next day she told me she had no money and asked me to give some of it back. I was shocked!!! I could not understand why someone would give a gift and then ask for it back. Now, after reading your blog, I understand. They did it in order to look good infront of the others at my shower.
My mother-in-law’s family are all still in Romania, and I thought my mother-in-law complained so much and put others down in order to make herself feel better because she was unhappy about not seeing her family in over 15 years, but now I understand that it is her culture. I understand that she is miserable from not seeing her family in so long, but she has had several opportunities to go back home and visit, but she always comes up with an excuse why she cannot go. I, for one, and willing to spend my entire life savings on buying her a one-way ticket home, just kidding!!!
Of course, you can tell that my mother-in-law and I do not get along very well, which is not uncommon, at least in the US. I always felt that our dislike for one another was always because of our different cultures. Now I know I was right, and I want to thank you for helping me understand that my mother-in-law is not a horribly miserable person that wants everyone else around her to be miserable. (well maybe she is). Some of my husband’s cousins are married to American women, and they have always had the same problems I have. I plan to give them your website, so hopefully they can get some clarification as to why their mother-in-laws are they way that they are.
I have always asked my husband why his parents are they way that they are, and why they always have to treat me so horribly. The only answer he can give me is “because that is they way that they are, that is the way all Romanian people are from that generation”. He was right. However, for some odd reason, it all makes more sense hearing it from someone that I do not know that still lives in Romania.
I am originally from Cleveland, Ohio, which from what I understand, is one of the cities in the US with the highest Romanian population. I now live in Florida, between Tampa and Orlando(Disney World). I want to thank you again for helping me understand my in-laws. I do want to also say that my husband is nothing like the way you described Romanian men. I do not want to say it is because he was raised in the US, because we all know that there are plenty of men in the US that match your description. I was just blessed to find a great, hard-working, caring man that is wonderful to his wife and kids. It is not his fault that his family is the way that they are. Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good!!
Thanks again and if you ever make your way to the US (Florida area), I would love to meet you!! You sound a lot like some of my Romanian friends that I have back in Cleveland. (The ones that will only admit to being Romanian if they have to, just kidding!!!)
Colleen
01 November, 2006
claudia darian said…
Colleen, thank you very much indeed for your thoughtful and interesting comment. I would actually like to post it as a small essay soon on the blog, if you agree. I find it very interesting, precisely because some Romanian people wrote me on my email to say how wrong I am in my assessment of fellow Romanians and pessimistic and all that crap…to be honest I barely stand exaggerated patriotism with no constructive view upon ourselves. How could you improve by refusing to acknowledge that something is wrong.
Anyway,…thanks again; I’ve been quite tied up in a while with my schedule but I’ll be posting again soon, and would be great to have your comment as a post.
Claudia
01 November, 2006
Javier said…
Am citit ce ai scris despre romani si l-am aflat foarte interesant. Esper ca o sa scrii din nou curand.
Buna, Claudia, nu stiu daca am voie sa scriu in limba romana, dar sunt indragostit de ea si orice moment e potrivit pentru o folosi
Sa ai grija de tine.
Javier.
12 November, 2006
Comment by dizzyggg — November 21, 2006 @ 2:53 am
Anonymous has left a new comment:
Claudia, Travelling to Romania this December and stumbled across your blog - doing my homework about the people/institutions - it’s … hilarious, but not sure if you meant it to be. I can’t wait. Anyway Thanks Domenic ps. At leat one Romanian will criticise their fellows
Comment by Anonymus — November 23, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
Yes, I meant to be hillarious when I felt like it; it is the way I write many times.
On the other hand, it is not my intention to criticise my fellow Romanians for the sake of it, for fun or for controversy. I write how I think about things, the way I see things, and applying my own judgement, knowledge, experience, subjectivity in the end, which I assume it all.
Comment by Darian — November 23, 2006 @ 5:24 pm
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post “On being Romanian”:
The biggest mistake of my life was to end up married to a guy who was Romanian. We are in the process of getting a divorce. I am latin and he did not want to introuce me to his family in Romania. He felt ashamed of me. The excuses he always gave me were that the people in his town were going to talk to much and bother his family because I was not Romanian. All he did was to lie to me for four years about everything and worse took me for a fool. He took my money and cheated on me. After 4 years, I went to visit his family. His Royal family had no bathroom in the house and worse the toilet was outside. It was a wooden box. In the cold in Viseu de Jos, I had to think many times before using the toilet. I had to boil the water to take a bath in the bedroom. I had never ever lived like that in all my life and coming from the USA was a torment because we are used to luxury. The people in Viseu looked at me like a person coming from out of space. I guess they had never seen a latin person before in their lives. Anyway after his family met me, they told him that “what was he thinking? how could he had fallen in love with someone like me from a different race? I could not believe it! Here I was a college graduate, getting a master’s degree and he could hardly read! At first, I was devastated but now I feel free and better than ever. In those four years, I read books about Romania,I thaught myself the language, learn how to cook Romanian and assimilated the culture all to please him and his family. I understand now that it is a country hard to please. I am very happy to be an American. Romanians need to understand that God made us all different to love and accept one another.
Comment by Anonymus — November 29, 2006 @ 1:03 pm
Hi and thank you so much for writing. I am really sorry about your bad experience with a Romanian…you haven’t got a nice one. You have nothing to be ashamed for who you are and to put up with anyone who thinks otherwise.
Romania it is a country hard to please for many reasons, yes, but also lots of Romanians get married with people from other cultures. In the countryside indeed people are less open minded and they are quite traditional…anyway this could be a long talk. You could write me on my personal address if you wish on claudiadarian@gmail.com
29 November, 2006
Comment by Darian — November 29, 2006 @ 1:18 pm
What I have meant earlier is that you probably made a mistake with this man you have chosen, but it could have as well be any other than Romanian. Your story is not defining for how Romanian men are in general.
However, you should not shut up Romanians crossing your ways from now on because of your bad experience with this one.
Comment by Darian — November 29, 2006 @ 1:53 pm
Salut…I am an American who is married to a Romanian. I am 19 years older than my wife, and we BOTH prefer living in Romania…There a much better quality of life for a family. Bogdaproste
Comment by Anonymus — December 2, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
Draga Claudia, am citit cu indignare post-ul tau original. Insusi procesul de generalizare pe care il practici te pune in viziunea mea intr-o pozitie lipsita de autoritate.
Comment by B — December 9, 2006 @ 1:33 am
De multi ani duc o “lupta” continua de a atrage atentia asupra lucrurilor bune din Romania. Presupun ca atitudinea mea e opusa atitudinii tale. Obiectivitatea e probabil undeva in mijloc.
Comment by B — December 9, 2006 @ 1:36 am
Draga B, ceea ce scriu aici este strict legat de mine si felul in care vad eu lucrurile si, crede-ma nu simt deloc nevoia nici sa ma scuz, nici sa ma justific. Nu ma intereseaza sa vorbesc aici dintr-o pozitie stiintifica - e doar un blog! - deci nu sunt catusi de putin preocupata de political corectness or anything like it. E cool ca altii au alta opinie.
Claudia
Comment by Anonymus — December 9, 2006 @ 7:33 pm
Sint complet de acord cu tine.
Comment by B — December 9, 2006 @ 8:02 pm
Dear Romanians,
I know that you felt offended when you read Claudia’s first posting. But you all know that almost all she said is true. If you don’t want to admit it, it means that you have all the “qualities” Claudia was talking about.
Anyway, the reason I am writing is to tell you that the reason we are like this is not because we have Romanian blood running though our veins, it is because of the education we got before and after December 1989.
Just think for a second back to your school years. Remember when the teacher in the first grade was telling you that you are not as good as your best friend, that your best friend’s homework is always better than yours, and that your best fiend will always be better than you, and so on. Nobody gets to the second grade without hating his/her “always better” best friend. And we are talking about 6-7 years old! This is what is happening in Romanian schools, starting with first grade (or maybe kindergarten) and going through college. Teachers bring the graded tests to class and start calling names and grades in the front of the class, starting with the lowest grade and finishing with the highest one. Of cores they don’t forget to humiliate the worst student and to tell to the best student that he/she can do better that that. When the teacher calls your name, you have to walk to the front of the class to receive your graded test, during your trip to the front of the class and back to your sit, the teacher tells you and the entire class what you did wrong in your test and why you got such a bad grade (because you are a lazy stupid spoiled kid that doesn’t appreciate the free education that is given to you).
We, Romanians, never say “Good job” or a “Keep up with the good work”. We don’t have a Romanian translation for this.
I strongly believe that the communist education we received in post and after communist Romania is the main reason we are the way we are. Like it or not we are the way we are and what is the saddest part is that the Romanians who would never leave the country would never change.
Just to agree with other Romanians who posted above, I can’t hang out with Romanians either and I cannot have Romanian friends. They are so annoying and they get to my nerves pretty quick.
I’m sorry I’m saying it but this is the truth!
Claudia, I’m sorry you have to stay in Romanian. Maybe one day I’ll have to come back too. I don’t even want to think at how sad and awful I’ll feel. I think I’ll go crazy in less than a year.
Comment by Crina — February 18, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
” My mind grew too big for the Balkans ” (Tristan Tzara)
Dear Claudia ,
our perceptions of the subject coincide at such an eerie level , that it spares me the continuation of the diatribe. It’s a passionate denunciation and that might be a suspect genre in itself for most of the Anglo Saxon readers , given their affinities with a colder line of reasoning. However, it contains - to my mind - a toxic density of excellent insights on Romanian mentality. So , in accordance to point 3 of your diatribe - expect all kinds of defensive , maybe even indignated reactions. As we all know, just being Romanian is a certificate of genius-ness and as a nation we are simply beyond any evaluations. Being a non Romanian is already the latent undoing and doom of any living creature. I’ll report back to the “pertinent institutions ” of our great nation to inform about your defeatist compulsion and malevolent blacknening of our immaculate collective soul.
My diagnostic : exile is the only theraphy and salvation. Goodluck ! (Euthanasia save Romania ! )
Comment by Robert — April 7, 2007 @ 11:59 am
I was born in Romania and am of ethnic Hungarian, unfortunately…I never liked Romanians and I never will. Liars, thieves they got it all in their genes, they are the plague of Europe!
Comment by Another Romanian — April 10, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
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Hi Robert,
and thanks for your feedback; I’ve already got my share of indignated reactions many directly in my email inbox. I’ve learned a lot from this exercise: I care less and less what some people have to say and I have become extremely picky with whom I allow to give suggestions. Yet I have never deleted any comment and I read them all.
Comment by darian — April 12, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Hi, I’ve been married to a Romanian for 20 years. When he is nice, he is very very nice, when he is not he is HORRID. I lived in Romania for 8 years. The people are nice when you don’t have to be too involved with them. Yeah, great, nice holidays, nice chats etc. But when money or anything else is involved, we are talking NAIVE. Yes, I am angry at the things I faced there - its not easy to have friends when they want to ‘profit’ from knowing foreigners - but I am also just tired of having to deal with bad behaviour.
However, this is not just a Romanian thing. Eastern Europe in general is a bit like this. The men are macho. The women have to get on with things. The men want to dominate, the women try to permit this - to keep the peace. They are understanding in a way.
I love Romania. I love the people in a way if you can keep to superficial friendships which don’t involve any expectations on either part. But there is one thing which characterises the Romanian psyche, it is an old saying about the fate of a goat and goes a little like this. If your goat dies, you hope that the neighbour’s goat dies too. This is a major characteristic in the country. People cannot be happy for each other. However, this is life under communism - would we have been any better.
Nevertheless, Romanian men are an absolute pain in the neck!!!!
Comment by janice — August 24, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Romanians are stupid.The article is right.I am Hungarian and I live in the BLOODY ROMANIA and it sucks.Romanians have stolen Transylvania the are shameless bloody thiefs !!!
Comment by István — September 6, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Hello Claudia!
I’m a Brazilian living abroad and came across your post because I’m travelling to Romania in two days and I’ve been reading a lot about your country.
I thought this post was very intriguing to say the least.
I have read a lot of good things about the Romanians, mostly coming from fellow Brazilians. I have also stumble through some bad things.
I even read today somewhere that Romania was, culturally, one of the closest countries to Brazil. If that was supposed to be good or bad I don’t know. We also have the tendency to criticize ourselves a lot.
After reading your post I wasn’t put off, on the contrary, I’m now more hipped than ever to get there, experience what it seems to be a very complex culture and form my own opinion about your countrymen.
Comment by Julian — November 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
De multi ani duc o “lupta” continua de a atrage atentia asupra lucrurilor bune din Romania. Presupun ca atitudinea mea e opusa atitudinii tale. Obiectivitatea e probabil undeva in mijloc.
doubledo@freemail.hu
Comment by doubledo@freemail.hu — January 6, 2008 @ 8:53 am
Reply to the blogs posted by the two idiotic Hungarians: do your homework & read up on history and see that way, way before your beloved Attila the Hun settled in Panonia (what is Hungary nowadays) that territory AND Transylvania BELONGED TO THE DACIANS, who are the ancestors for the Romanian people. So in fact, you are on OUR territory!!!!!! SO SHUT UP!
Claudia, I am a Romanian living in the US for about 13 years now. While I noticed some of the things that were mentioned by you and others who have posted on this blog, remember that these are traits that are shared by other nationalities not just us Romanians, I’ve seen this in Arabic people, in Spanish, etc. Perhaps this is just human nature that expresses itself in this way as a result of the fight for survival that was engrained in us since the beginning of time- I mean look at our history and all we’ve gone thru… So why not start the change one person at a time and build a PROUD people i.e. like so many other ethnic groups do even though they’re NOT American, they’re not perfect! Why not focus on teh good things ROmania has to offer- hospitability, culture, richness of folklore, etc. How long are we going to denagrate our own image over and over again. If you do tell a story why not give a voice to both sides- good and bad?? Just a thought..
Comment by anonymous — January 28, 2008 @ 1:22 am
I am Romanian living abroad who has traveled extensively and lived a few different western countries.
I find the comments of the OP to be prejudiced in the extreme. It would be nice if the OP could distinguish culture shock and personal resentments from smearing an entire people.
Frankly this sort of idiocy seems characteristic of many westerners, whose prejudice mostly stems from lack of experience with foreign peoples.
Comment by anonymous — January 28, 2008 @ 3:18 am
Claudia,
Look what you’ve started! What you’ve experienced, at the time you wrote your rant, is called DEPRESSION! I hope you’re feeling better now. I suppose this entire exercise is therapeutical… If that’s the case, so be it, but if you, even remotely, thought that your statements were objective, sweetie, you’ve missed the mark. Yeah, I’m Romanian. I’ve lived the hard life: line-up for gas, potatoes, eggs, MILK, etc., but I wouldn’t be where I am today (in Canada, working in law-enforcement, wife and kids), without the strong work ethic (working in the corn fields without any money - forced by the system), without the perseverance (fighting for my dreams), without my convictions… Look, I can talk on and on about the hardships that most of us endured under the crazy regime, but you and I survived. Is that all you got out of it; if that’s all, damn girl, get a shrink. I choose to capitalize on these traits I’ve acquired during the hard times in Romania. Romania and its people are worth knowing. Enjoy life and don’t live in the past. Use your energy to change the things that you can (you and your environment), and stop mourning: it’s PITIFUL!
pappy
Comment by pappy — January 29, 2008 @ 6:48 am
sorry claudia,
my comment was meant for the numbnuts that wrote the “On being Romanian”
pappy
Comment by pappy — January 29, 2008 @ 6:53 am
Hi Claudia. I’m Romanian and i have lived there for 11 years. I don’t remember a lot but i dont think that Romanians are as bad as you make them. When i read it, i was a bit furious and affended, but as i read furthor on, i kind of agreed some with your comments and some not. Not all Romanians are the same. I am not coppetative and i’m not judgemental or backsttaber or whatever you all wrote. Everyone is different and every country has thier own believes and values and traditions.. I lived there and i live here.. i dont see much of a difference. Everyone is prety much the same.. And personally you sound racist, doesnt that make you a horrible person. In some way i believe that this is even iligal for you to write, but i guess it makes others reflect in what you are saying. You make Romanians sound so bad, like they are evil. Not all of them are selfis and unhelpful.. a lot of them are realy nice to others, espeacialy the younger population..They have good hearts. I agree with you in a lot of things what you said but i just think you viewed every Romanian that way, and not every romanian is that way. What about other countries, like Russa and Ukrainia, or Asia, You cant just talk about only one country when you dont know the rest of the world. My point is that i’m a little angry.just because you said only Romanians are like that but what i think is most likely everyone can be that way. All over the world. I’m Romanian and really i am not like that if you would get to know me. I think what you need to do is spend some time with some Romanians and really get to know them then come back and write more. I forgot to mention what i agree with you. I think a lot of the Romanians that are the way you described them to are the older generation that were born and live in Romania, but i think that the younger generation a lot of them are not like that. By the way, i am not a lier, i tend to be onest and blunt with people. I am not a thief, i dont steal, i buy what i want to buy and if i cant afford it then i will waint untill i can. One last thing to the people that dont like Romanians. Do you guys give them a chance to become friends with Romanians?, because i know i lot of the Romanians give others a chance.
Comment by Luci — February 8, 2008 @ 4:41 am