
Ok, this is sounding more and more like a personal blog, so I will indulge this round again in ranting on my idiosyncrasies. One of these, quite stubborn, as it doesn’t let me live in peace is ‘on being Romanian’ or, more precisely, what it takes to be Romanian. Do you need a special something, a certain ne je sais quoi, to be born, live and act Romanian? Well, a few things, in my view.
First, you should be selfish: if you travel abroad do not get in touch with your fellow citizens, do not help them and do not talk with them. What you can do though, Romanian like, is dissing them with every occasion you get; if it happens than one Romanian is smarter, faster and better than you, then you MUST envy him/her, wish him/her bad luck and quietly pray that he/she will not succeed no matter what. If he/she will strike against all the odds, then you must humiliate this person somehow, find something from the past and splash it out.
Secondly, if you are born Romanian you will not help another Romanian; I have already said that. By the contrary, everything must be a competition die or get dead. No sharing information, no helping hand, no good words, no positive feedback, no harmless good intentions, nothing like it, God forbidden. You are on your own and you must eliminate competition, precisely smarter and better than you. As a Romanian, you simply cannot acknowledge and accept that others are better than you this is impossible. Envy has an un-limited dimension in this country. Not getting me wrong, I know a few projects/groups in Romania, made by Romanians who proved that occasionally solidarity is possible among Romanians: there is a group of young artists promoting each other but also doing common good projects, likewise a few groups helping Romanian students wishing to study abroad and collecting and sharing a huge amount of information pro bono, in the good style of European universities, where students share between themselves lots of ideas, notes, give and receive constructive feedback that will help them do a better job. Also, in any other European country when you meet new young people, you are almost immediately assimilated and introduced to their groups and invited to events and everything goes naturally, effortlessly. In Romania, if you belong to certain group, then is YOUR group and only yours; you will not allow another, a marginal to enter, you keep others aside. If one succeeds in this endeavour, then you have to play alike, fake it until you make it, as everyone does the same, in an all exclusive membership club.
Thirdly, constructive feedback is almost a neologism in this country. You are not allowed to criticize a Romanian, whatever he does. We don’t like critique, constructive or non-constructive is not relevant. We do things better here, our way, and we said that to Europe many times until these dull Europeans got it in their heads, and now Europe must do something to accommodate itself to the Romanian aquis; basically we did not integrate to EU, Europe must integrate in Romania, and that fast. Romanians will use often though this paradigm of ‘constructive feedback’ but is just a euphemism for blunt hostility, anger and a clear intention to smash you in pieces, if possible.
Fourthly, in general, neither Romanians want, nor they care for this country to be better, they care primarily about themselves. Exceptions are allowed, things are warming up a bit in this direction. Politicians do not give a damn; they are unscrupulous, arrogant, self-interested bastards. The people are poor, they strive a lot for the bread, go to pick up strawberries in foreign countries, abandon their children hoping for a better income, journalists are more often than not like small business affiliated to a certain power interest, NGOs likewise so lately, everywhere you perceive self-centred interests and hidden agendas covered up in nice words like soap balloons. The few journalistic investigations uncovering big corruption, money laundering, dodgy business and incompetence have no follow-up, nobody feels any sort of responsibility. How could they? Many ‘big’ journalists made their own business under one or the other of our governments, business people likewise, they lobbied and courted one or the other power centres and usually the most successful business, the one success story started from scratch has a liaison in the political background that we don’t even want to know about. My excuses to the very few serious business people out there, but I don’t know them yet.
Fifthly, Romanians have no shame: they can lie continuously; they will lie into your face without blinking. They also have no respect for their word and no shame. Do not be surprised if you deal with a so called business man, well travelled, and perhaps well educated in a foreign university, who has, under his apparently fine tuned manners, the worst type of impolite behaviour you will meet around these beautiful lands: the hypocritical jerk that will walk over you as soon as you turn your back. Beware; you cannot trust Romanian business men, as you cannot trust a Romanian politician. That so long awaited young political elite is not coming, is it all outside this country already, maybe they will make great politicians and business men in those countries, which treat them as they deserve and where they don’t need to compromise in order to ‘make it’.
Romanians complain a lot too, just look at me here: about themselves, about anyone else, about anything. I am Romanian, so I am not perfect, I am guilty by birth, therefore I should not fume against my fellow citizens, like an ungrateful, but I am just very tired, I regret returning to this country, it seems more and more like the worst decision I have ever made. I will never blame those leaving and not ever wanting to hear what is here. Romania simply does not deserve its good people and I know what it takes to stick around and hang in there and fighting to change things around these places……it is a long and exhausting battle and you must have some commando skills to survive in these volatile valueless grounds.
(photo from Vivid)
joegee said…
Claudia….surely you are speaking with a certain amount of cynicism, hyperbole, and ANGER!! Well, maybe not anger, but I can see fumes rising above every line. This is clearly a blog entry that was written with a lot of passion…dark passion that is. I truly appreciate this rant that you have gone on here, being an American. I could simply leave it there and enough would probably be said, but I think such a fluent tirade of well-placed invectives deserves some closer attention.
I am imagining that all of the wonderful hospitality that was extended to me when I was in Romania last summer was disingenuous. At least you have me thinking that maybe there were some ulterior motives lurking behind all of the acts of kindness, as well as the display of emotion, which, if not sincere, was truly the conduct of consummate actors.
Ok, maybe you are speaking of a different stratum of Romanian society. It seems you’ve implicated the politicians, business people, and journalists on your hit list, but your generalizations seem to reach across the whole country. But what do I know…I was just a visitor there and I only know a few Romanians in a personal way. Over the past two years I have made a sort of informal study of your country and people and I have tried to be objective about what I have learned.
A few things I think I know about Romanians: They can be a very sensitive and caring people who don’t have too many obstacles in their hearts that prevent them from an open and sincere display of that emotion. In America this is not always so…there has been so much artifice in social and business relationships for so long that we seem to be past criticism and outcry, and have assimilated the salesman-with-an-ulterior-motive mentality to such a degree that we question our own reactions and indict ourselves more often than not. Not that we don’t know how to be humane, but our humanity has been polluted by materialism.
I will use your blog entry here as proof text for my point. You have expressed your thoughts and emotions here about what you believe are national character traits of Romanians, a very deep and sensitive subject with an openness and honesty (not to mention articulateness…god, I love the way you use my native language!) that is uncommon here in the U.S. This kind of candid behavior is what creates trust. We here in America are all too often afraid to look in the mirror and face ourselves.
Another thing I believe is that there seems to be a deep generosity in the Romanian spirit. I have seen this. I have been the recipient of it on many occasions, but I think I am taking too much space here. I appreciate your candidness in opening this subject and I am hoping that much more will be written here in response in the future.
03 October, 2006
claudia darian said…
Joegee, if you go around Romania you will find anywhere incredibly nice, open, helpful people. Let’s not mix things up. I was concentrating my fumes against the politicians and influencial people, those who are the opinion makers, some sort of an elite, the analysts, the politicians, the policy makers. The smart people, the sharks.
So, obviously you cannot generalize, but I was talking about common patterns. In any case, I often used to avoid Romanians abroad myself and I know many people doing the same. I easily get along with just anybody but Romanians, they simply annoy me, at least many of them. It is probably a mutual feeling. As I am blunt and provocative here, I would say that I simply don’t like Romanians. As a logical consequence, I dont like myself, but I assume this identity, it always has been a love-hate relationship for many of us.
03 October, 2006
Anonymous said…
u know what… the point is that i am as romanian as u r, and i probably felt somehow similar at the beginnings of my journey, a few years ago. but it’s not that bad, u know… u find similar patterns in other countries and in other ethnic groups. i have no idea why, but we are ashamed to be romanians. and i don’t think it’s fair, coz we have no more and no less sins and shortcomings than other nations. i would say a little … tolerance towards ur own kind can’t hurt. coz, as i said, it’s not as bad as u wanna make it sound like. it’s just nobody is perfect, and romanians are also allowed to be imperfect. plus, there are pros, not only cons, u don’t really talk abt there. and it’s a pity from one point of view, to see a german telling u that “all romanians i’ve met were very smart and sharp” and, on the other hand, a romanian writing abt how bad we are.
bottom line, i am neither ashamed not proud to be romanian. it’s just a label and whoever wants to judge me by it – fine. but it’s wrong to make so general statements, particularly when it comes to 20 smth million..
04 October, 2006
claudia darian said…
Thank you, I really appreciate your comment. Somehow I was wrongly understood and my view was generalized towards the 20 millions Romanians + few more living abroad. I was considering mainly our elite, because we are mostly judged through them by other nations.
I am not ashamed to be Romanian, nor proud too. I am just trying to be realistic. There will be other posts on possitive things and I’ll have a series about Romanians I admire. Romanians are extremely smart and sharp and honest…unfortunately they are not yet the elite of this country; I am sure they will soon. Until then, we got what we have and that’s the idea. In any case, comparing with a few years ago, Romanians are changing very fast for the better.
04 October, 2006
Anonymous said…
well, realistically speaking, romania is no heaven and romanians are no angels, that’s for sure. and in a way i understand u… first time i returned after 1 yr abroad, i felt like dying and i kept wondering “what on earth am i doing here”. everything was dark and my mind was set on leaving. but, after leaving and being away, i realized it’s not so bad… we do lack respect for anything, for authorities, laws, systems (of whatever kind they might be), our fellows and so on. but, sometimes i miss this attitude. when i see how people take things as “by default” i miss the romanian cynicism.
the smart, sharp and western-type romanians won’t be the elite so soon, coz very few of them try to change things. they either stay abroad, where the wheels of the mechanism are turning smoothly, or come back and forget how it is. it depends a lot. but, as a whole, the country and the people are changing. my grandma will always regret the good old communist times and i don’t think she will ever stop being worried for me. but after my grandma is my mom, who is half regretting, half understanding, and after her… well, it’s not me, coz i’m not going back:), but there are people like me and like u, there must be.
maybe it’s my optimistic nature, maybe i miss home too much sometimes, but i don’t think the devil is so dark, to translate a romanian saying:). it’s just different, but u should see worse places… i mean no offence, but i paid a visit to ukraine, and romania is soooo organized and so neat…it’s just an example, i don’t have anything against ukrainians… it’s all about the point of refence – if u lived in germany, for example, u will painfully notice the romanian chaos. but i don’t think romanians are that bad, not even our elites… u know, if we had some more civil society, the elites would look differently. but, being as it is, nobody requires them to be different, to be better. so, they r as we ask them to be (read vote).
still, this will take time. and, if u feel the way u do, better get out of there and make a place for u somewhere else. i mean, regardless what i might tell u, u r not happy there. plus, from the distance, romania and its inhabitants look better:)
good luck
04 October, 2006
Ryan said…
Hi Claudia, I have been living in Bucharest since this September. What I found people here are warm-hearted and always be ready for help. AND people are diligent. Not any complain even when I asked them to overwork for a long time that would occupy too much their private time. What I think before is that this would only happen in my country.I am from China but I used to be living in western europe(UK,Netherlands) for around 10 years. What I found here Romanian guys are much better than the arrogant people from UK. Luckily I got enough time to investigate coz I suppose to stay here for more time.
Ryan
Ryan
14 October, 2006
claudia darian said…
Hi Ryan and thanks for your comment, I appreciated. It is true Romanians are very open, helpful and diligent with/towards foreigners; it may be an inferiority complex, I don’t know. In any case, I do not wish to generalize, as things have been shifting in this direction; what I meant is that one thing is to be a foreigner and notice from outside and the other to be a local. I guess is everywhere the same; I used to live in Britain for a while and I actually liked and got along well with the Brits. Probably over more years I would have started to perceive the bad traits.
Wish you good luck in Romania and stay in touch.
14 October, 2006
Anonymous said…
No probs. thank you.
I have already add your msn
15 October, 2006
Colleen said…
Hi Claudia,
I live in the US and am married to a Romanian man. He was born in Romania, but moved to the US when he was two. I just happened to come across your blog, and when I began reading it, I could not help but think that you just described my husband’s family. My husband is not like this, but his mother and most of his aunts are exactly the way you described. I do want to say that his family was always very kind towards me and most of them still are. However, your description describes my mother-in-law and father-in-law exactly!! My mother-in-law is one that is very much in competition with all of the other Romanians she knows. When my husband and I go to a relatives home, she wants to know if they have anything new in their home or better than what she has. I have heard her say humiliting things about some of her “close” Romanian friends one day, and then invite them into her home the next. That has always confused me. Why would someone want to humiliate their friends behind their backs, and then act as if nothing was ever said?? That is not something that only Romanians do. Trust me, I have heard plenty of Americans do the same thing. I have also witnessed first hand another Romanian woman, who married my husband’s uncle and has no family in the US, come to my mother-in-law and my husband’s aunt with problems in her marriage and my mother-in-law and his aunt told her to keep her problems to herself. I felt horrible for this woman. She has no one to talk to in the US, except people in her husband’s family, and they do not want to listen or help her. Unfortunetly, she speaks very little English, she has only been in the US for a couple of years and has always been around other Romanians, so was never forced to learn the English language, and I can speak and understand some Romanian, but not enough to have a conversation. When I speak Romanian, you would think that I just finished “Romanina 101″ or taught myself with a book on tape, but hey you cannot look down on me for still trying to learn my husband’s native language that will not help me in the long run, seeing I live in the US. Just for the record, we are attempting to teach our 3 year old and 18 month old sons Romanian.
I know that I have tried to show my mother-in-law ways to do some things different than the way she would normally do things, a way that I thought would be easier and quicker, but she never wanted to hear about it. The way she does things is the right way, and even if your way is easier or quicker, it is still not the right way. We ran into a ton of problems after I had my first son. She wanted me to do things her way and I, of course, wanted to do things my way. Seeing it is my son, I made it very clear to her that things were to be done my way. For instance, she continued telling me that if my son started to run a fever to put vinegar on his feet. I had never heard of doing something like that, and when I mentioned it to one of my Romanian friends, she told me that they did that to her brother in Romania when he had a high fever instead of taking him to the doctor and he died. I explained to my mother-in-law that I agreed some of her
“home remedies” probably would work; however, I was not willing to take a chance when came to my son and that she needed to give him Tylenol or let me know, so I could take him to the doctor. She of course was not happy with that, but thankfully understood that he was our son and not hers.
When you said that Romanians will not help other Romanians, this is very true from what I have seen. My in-laws have helped my husband and I a couple times, and every time they have, they throw it back into our faces, even infront of other people. Competition, well that is their middle name!! We had our first son in 2003 and my mother-in-law threw a shower for us. She paid for the shower, and then also gave us a large amount of money as a gift, which I was not expecting. I am not sure how baby showers are done in Romania, but here they all expect you to open the cards you receive and announce how much money is inside. This was a foreign concept to me, that is until my baby shower. Of course, when I opened my card from my in-laws and read out loud how much they gave us, everyone began clapping. Can you believe, the next day she told me she had no money and asked me to give some of it back. I was shocked!!! I could not understand why someone would give a gift and then ask for it back. Now, after reading your blog, I understand. They did it in order to look good infront of the others at my shower.
My mother-in-law’s family are all still in Romania, and I thought my mother-in-law complained so much and put others down in order to make herself feel better because she was unhappy about not seeing her family in over 15 years, but now I understand that it is her culture. I understand that she is miserable from not seeing her family in so long, but she has had several opportunities to go back home and visit, but she always comes up with an excuse why she cannot go. I, for one, and willing to spend my entire life savings on buying her a one-way ticket home, just kidding!!!
Of course, you can tell that my mother-in-law and I do not get along very well, which is not uncommon, at least in the US. I always felt that our dislike for one another was always because of our different cultures. Now I know I was right, and I want to thank you for helping me understand that my mother-in-law is not a horribly miserable person that wants everyone else around her to be miserable. (well maybe she is). Some of my husband’s cousins are married to American women, and they have always had the same problems I have. I plan to give them your website, so hopefully they can get some clarification as to why their mother-in-laws are they way that they are.
I have always asked my husband why his parents are they way that they are, and why they always have to treat me so horribly. The only answer he can give me is “because that is they way that they are, that is the way all Romanian people are from that generation”. He was right. However, for some odd reason, it all makes more sense hearing it from someone that I do not know that still lives in Romania.
I am originally from Cleveland, Ohio, which from what I understand, is one of the cities in the US with the highest Romanian population. I now live in Florida, between Tampa and Orlando(Disney World). I want to thank you again for helping me understand my in-laws. I do want to also say that my husband is nothing like the way you described Romanian men. I do not want to say it is because he was raised in the US, because we all know that there are plenty of men in the US that match your description. I was just blessed to find a great, hard-working, caring man that is wonderful to his wife and kids. It is not his fault that his family is the way that they are. Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good!!
Thanks again and if you ever make your way to the US (Florida area), I would love to meet you!! You sound a lot like some of my Romanian friends that I have back in Cleveland. (The ones that will only admit to being Romanian if they have to, just kidding!!!)
Colleen
01 November, 2006
claudia darian said…
Colleen, thank you very much indeed for your thoughtful and interesting comment. I would actually like to post it as a small essay soon on the blog, if you agree. I find it very interesting, precisely because some Romanian people wrote me on my email to say how wrong I am in my assessment of fellow Romanians and pessimistic and all that crap…to be honest I barely stand exaggerated patriotism with no constructive view upon ourselves. How could you improve by refusing to acknowledge that something is wrong.
Anyway,…thanks again; I’ve been quite tied up in a while with my schedule but I’ll be posting again soon, and would be great to have your comment as a post.
Claudia
01 November, 2006
Javier said…
Am citit ce ai scris despre romani si l-am aflat foarte interesant. Esper ca o sa scrii din nou curand.
Buna, Claudia, nu stiu daca am voie sa scriu in limba romana, dar sunt indragostit de ea si orice moment e potrivit pentru o folosi
Sa ai grija de tine.
Javier.
12 November, 2006
Comment by dizzyggg — November 21, 2006 @ 2:53 am |
Anonymous has left a new comment:
Claudia, Travelling to Romania this December and stumbled across your blog – doing my homework about the people/institutions – it’s … hilarious, but not sure if you meant it to be. I can’t wait. Anyway Thanks Domenic ps. At leat one Romanian will criticise their fellows
Comment by Anonymus — November 23, 2006 @ 5:20 pm |
Yes, I meant to be hillarious when I felt like it; it is the way I write many times.
On the other hand, it is not my intention to criticise my fellow Romanians for the sake of it, for fun or for controversy. I write how I think about things, the way I see things, and applying my own judgement, knowledge, experience, subjectivity in the end, which I assume it all.
Comment by Darian — November 23, 2006 @ 5:24 pm |
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post “On being Romanian”:
The biggest mistake of my life was to end up married to a guy who was Romanian. We are in the process of getting a divorce. I am latin and he did not want to introuce me to his family in Romania. He felt ashamed of me. The excuses he always gave me were that the people in his town were going to talk to much and bother his family because I was not Romanian. All he did was to lie to me for four years about everything and worse took me for a fool. He took my money and cheated on me. After 4 years, I went to visit his family. His Royal family had no bathroom in the house and worse the toilet was outside. It was a wooden box. In the cold in Viseu de Jos, I had to think many times before using the toilet. I had to boil the water to take a bath in the bedroom. I had never ever lived like that in all my life and coming from the USA was a torment because we are used to luxury. The people in Viseu looked at me like a person coming from out of space. I guess they had never seen a latin person before in their lives. Anyway after his family met me, they told him that “what was he thinking? how could he had fallen in love with someone like me from a different race? I could not believe it! Here I was a college graduate, getting a master’s degree and he could hardly read! At first, I was devastated but now I feel free and better than ever. In those four years, I read books about Romania,I thaught myself the language, learn how to cook Romanian and assimilated the culture all to please him and his family. I understand now that it is a country hard to please. I am very happy to be an American. Romanians need to understand that God made us all different to love and accept one another.
Comment by Anonymus — November 29, 2006 @ 1:03 pm |
Hi and thank you so much for writing. I am really sorry about your bad experience with a Romanian…you haven’t got a nice one. You have nothing to be ashamed for who you are and to put up with anyone who thinks otherwise.
Romania it is a country hard to please for many reasons, yes, but also lots of Romanians get married with people from other cultures. In the countryside indeed people are less open minded and they are quite traditional…anyway this could be a long talk. You could write me on my personal address if you wish on claudiadarian@gmail.com
29 November, 2006
Comment by Darian — November 29, 2006 @ 1:18 pm |
What I have meant earlier is that you probably made a mistake with this man you have chosen, but it could have as well be any other than Romanian. Your story is not defining for how Romanian men are in general.
However, you should not shut up Romanians crossing your ways from now on because of your bad experience with this one.
Comment by Darian — November 29, 2006 @ 1:53 pm |
Salut…I am an American who is married to a Romanian. I am 19 years older than my wife, and we BOTH prefer living in Romania…There a much better quality of life for a family. Bogdaproste:D
Comment by Anonymus — December 2, 2006 @ 5:17 pm |
Draga Claudia, am citit cu indignare post-ul tau original. Insusi procesul de generalizare pe care il practici te pune in viziunea mea intr-o pozitie lipsita de autoritate.
Comment by B — December 9, 2006 @ 1:33 am |
De multi ani duc o “lupta” continua de a atrage atentia asupra lucrurilor bune din Romania. Presupun ca atitudinea mea e opusa atitudinii tale. Obiectivitatea e probabil undeva in mijloc.
Comment by B — December 9, 2006 @ 1:36 am |
Draga B, ceea ce scriu aici este strict legat de mine si felul in care vad eu lucrurile si, crede-ma nu simt deloc nevoia nici sa ma scuz, nici sa ma justific. Nu ma intereseaza sa vorbesc aici dintr-o pozitie stiintifica – e doar un blog! – deci nu sunt catusi de putin preocupata de political corectness or anything like it. E cool ca altii au alta opinie.
Claudia
Comment by Anonymus — December 9, 2006 @ 7:33 pm |
Sint complet de acord cu tine.
Comment by B — December 9, 2006 @ 8:02 pm |
Dear Romanians,
I know that you felt offended when you read Claudia’s first posting. But you all know that almost all she said is true. If you don’t want to admit it, it means that you have all the “qualities” Claudia was talking about.
Anyway, the reason I am writing is to tell you that the reason we are like this is not because we have Romanian blood running though our veins, it is because of the education we got before and after December 1989.
Just think for a second back to your school years. Remember when the teacher in the first grade was telling you that you are not as good as your best friend, that your best friend’s homework is always better than yours, and that your best fiend will always be better than you, and so on. Nobody gets to the second grade without hating his/her “always better” best friend. And we are talking about 6-7 years old! This is what is happening in Romanian schools, starting with first grade (or maybe kindergarten) and going through college. Teachers bring the graded tests to class and start calling names and grades in the front of the class, starting with the lowest grade and finishing with the highest one. Of cores they don’t forget to humiliate the worst student and to tell to the best student that he/she can do better that that. When the teacher calls your name, you have to walk to the front of the class to receive your graded test, during your trip to the front of the class and back to your sit, the teacher tells you and the entire class what you did wrong in your test and why you got such a bad grade (because you are a lazy stupid spoiled kid that doesn’t appreciate the free education that is given to you).
We, Romanians, never say “Good job” or a “Keep up with the good work”. We don’t have a Romanian translation for this.
I strongly believe that the communist education we received in post and after communist Romania is the main reason we are the way we are. Like it or not we are the way we are and what is the saddest part is that the Romanians who would never leave the country would never change.
Just to agree with other Romanians who posted above, I can’t hang out with Romanians either and I cannot have Romanian friends. They are so annoying and they get to my nerves pretty quick.
I’m sorry I’m saying it but this is the truth!
Claudia, I’m sorry you have to stay in Romanian. Maybe one day I’ll have to come back too. I don’t even want to think at how sad and awful I’ll feel. I think I’ll go crazy in less than a year.
Comment by Crina — February 18, 2007 @ 11:01 pm |
” My mind grew too big for the Balkans ” (Tristan Tzara)
Dear Claudia ,
our perceptions of the subject coincide at such an eerie level , that it spares me the continuation of the diatribe. It’s a passionate denunciation and that might be a suspect genre in itself for most of the Anglo Saxon readers , given their affinities with a colder line of reasoning. However, it contains – to my mind – a toxic density of excellent insights on Romanian mentality. So , in accordance to point 3 of your diatribe – expect all kinds of defensive , maybe even indignated reactions. As we all know, just being Romanian is a certificate of genius-ness and as a nation we are simply beyond any evaluations. Being a non Romanian is already the latent undoing and doom of any living creature. I’ll report back to the “pertinent institutions ” of our great nation to inform about your defeatist compulsion and malevolent blacknening of our immaculate collective soul.
My diagnostic : exile is the only theraphy and salvation. Goodluck ! (Euthanasia save Romania ! )
Comment by Robert — April 7, 2007 @ 11:59 am |
I was born in Romania and am of ethnic Hungarian, unfortunately…I never liked Romanians and I never will. Liars, thieves they got it all in their genes, they are the plague of Europe!
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Hi Robert,
and thanks for your feedback; I’ve already got my share of indignated reactions many directly in my email inbox. I’ve learned a lot from this exercise: I care less and less what some people have to say and I have become extremely picky with whom I allow to give suggestions. Yet I have never deleted any comment and I read them all.
Comment by darian — April 12, 2007 @ 9:33 pm |
Hi, I’ve been married to a Romanian for 20 years. When he is nice, he is very very nice, when he is not he is HORRID. I lived in Romania for 8 years. The people are nice when you don’t have to be too involved with them. Yeah, great, nice holidays, nice chats etc. But when money or anything else is involved, we are talking NAIVE. Yes, I am angry at the things I faced there – its not easy to have friends when they want to ‘profit’ from knowing foreigners – but I am also just tired of having to deal with bad behaviour.
However, this is not just a Romanian thing. Eastern Europe in general is a bit like this. The men are macho. The women have to get on with things. The men want to dominate, the women try to permit this – to keep the peace. They are understanding in a way.
I love Romania. I love the people in a way if you can keep to superficial friendships which don’t involve any expectations on either part. But there is one thing which characterises the Romanian psyche, it is an old saying about the fate of a goat and goes a little like this. If your goat dies, you hope that the neighbour’s goat dies too. This is a major characteristic in the country. People cannot be happy for each other. However, this is life under communism – would we have been any better.
Nevertheless, Romanian men are an absolute pain in the neck!!!!
Comment by janice — August 24, 2007 @ 8:26 pm |
Romanians are stupid.The article is right.I am Hungarian and I live in the BLOODY ROMANIA and it sucks.Romanians have stolen Transylvania the are shameless bloody thiefs !!!
Comment by István — September 6, 2007 @ 3:38 pm |
Seriously, are Hungarians a descendency from the Tracian people? I don’t think so. Dacians are so, and the first people that lived here are DACS… Read history, futu-ti mortii matii de bozgor!
Comment by dracidus — June 12, 2009 @ 4:43 pm |
Hello Claudia!
I’m a Brazilian living abroad and came across your post because I’m travelling to Romania in two days and I’ve been reading a lot about your country.
I thought this post was very intriguing to say the least.
I have read a lot of good things about the Romanians, mostly coming from fellow Brazilians. I have also stumble through some bad things.
I even read today somewhere that Romania was, culturally, one of the closest countries to Brazil. If that was supposed to be good or bad I don’t know. We also have the tendency to criticize ourselves a lot.
After reading your post I wasn’t put off, on the contrary, I’m now more hipped than ever to get there, experience what it seems to be a very complex culture and form my own opinion about your countrymen.
Comment by Julian — November 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm |
De multi ani duc o “lupta” continua de a atrage atentia asupra lucrurilor bune din Romania. Presupun ca atitudinea mea e opusa atitudinii tale. Obiectivitatea e probabil undeva in mijloc.
doubledo@freemail.hu
Comment by doubledo@freemail.hu — January 6, 2008 @ 8:53 am |
Reply to the blogs posted by the two idiotic Hungarians: do your homework & read up on history and see that way, way before your beloved Attila the Hun settled in Panonia (what is Hungary nowadays) that territory AND Transylvania BELONGED TO THE DACIANS, who are the ancestors for the Romanian people. So in fact, you are on OUR territory!!!!!! SO SHUT UP!
Claudia, I am a Romanian living in the US for about 13 years now. While I noticed some of the things that were mentioned by you and others who have posted on this blog, remember that these are traits that are shared by other nationalities not just us Romanians, I’ve seen this in Arabic people, in Spanish, etc. Perhaps this is just human nature that expresses itself in this way as a result of the fight for survival that was engrained in us since the beginning of time- I mean look at our history and all we’ve gone thru… So why not start the change one person at a time and build a PROUD people i.e. like so many other ethnic groups do even though they’re NOT American, they’re not perfect! Why not focus on teh good things ROmania has to offer- hospitability, culture, richness of folklore, etc. How long are we going to denagrate our own image over and over again. If you do tell a story why not give a voice to both sides- good and bad?? Just a thought..
Comment by anonymous — January 28, 2008 @ 1:22 am |
I am Romanian living abroad who has traveled extensively and lived a few different western countries.
I find the comments of the OP to be prejudiced in the extreme. It would be nice if the OP could distinguish culture shock and personal resentments from smearing an entire people.
Frankly this sort of idiocy seems characteristic of many westerners, whose prejudice mostly stems from lack of experience with foreign peoples.
Comment by anonymous — January 28, 2008 @ 3:18 am |
Claudia,
Look what you’ve started! What you’ve experienced, at the time you wrote your rant, is called DEPRESSION! I hope you’re feeling better now. I suppose this entire exercise is therapeutical… If that’s the case, so be it, but if you, even remotely, thought that your statements were objective, sweetie, you’ve missed the mark. Yeah, I’m Romanian. I’ve lived the hard life: line-up for gas, potatoes, eggs, MILK, etc., but I wouldn’t be where I am today (in Canada, working in law-enforcement, wife and kids), without the strong work ethic (working in the corn fields without any money – forced by the system), without the perseverance (fighting for my dreams), without my convictions… Look, I can talk on and on about the hardships that most of us endured under the crazy regime, but you and I survived. Is that all you got out of it; if that’s all, damn girl, get a shrink. I choose to capitalize on these traits I’ve acquired during the hard times in Romania. Romania and its people are worth knowing. Enjoy life and don’t live in the past. Use your energy to change the things that you can (you and your environment), and stop mourning: it’s PITIFUL!
pappy
Comment by pappy — January 29, 2008 @ 6:48 am |
sorry claudia,
my comment was meant for the numbnuts that wrote the “On being Romanian”
pappy
Comment by pappy — January 29, 2008 @ 6:53 am |
Hi Claudia. I’m Romanian and i have lived there for 11 years. I don’t remember a lot but i dont think that Romanians are as bad as you make them. When i read it, i was a bit furious and affended, but as i read furthor on, i kind of agreed some with your comments and some not. Not all Romanians are the same. I am not coppetative and i’m not judgemental or backsttaber or whatever you all wrote. Everyone is different and every country has thier own believes and values and traditions.. I lived there and i live here.. i dont see much of a difference. Everyone is prety much the same.. And personally you sound racist, doesnt that make you a horrible person. In some way i believe that this is even iligal for you to write, but i guess it makes others reflect in what you are saying. You make Romanians sound so bad, like they are evil. Not all of them are selfis and unhelpful.. a lot of them are realy nice to others, espeacialy the younger population..They have good hearts. I agree with you in a lot of things what you said but i just think you viewed every Romanian that way, and not every romanian is that way. What about other countries, like Russa and Ukrainia, or Asia, You cant just talk about only one country when you dont know the rest of the world. My point is that i’m a little angry.just because you said only Romanians are like that but what i think is most likely everyone can be that way. All over the world. I’m Romanian and really i am not like that if you would get to know me. I think what you need to do is spend some time with some Romanians and really get to know them then come back and write more. I forgot to mention what i agree with you. I think a lot of the Romanians that are the way you described them to are the older generation that were born and live in Romania, but i think that the younger generation a lot of them are not like that. By the way, i am not a lier, i tend to be onest and blunt with people. I am not a thief, i dont steal, i buy what i want to buy and if i cant afford it then i will waint untill i can. One last thing to the people that dont like Romanians. Do you guys give them a chance to become friends with Romanians?, because i know i lot of the Romanians give others a chance.
Comment by Luci — February 8, 2008 @ 4:41 am |
Hello blog owner,
If you wouldn;t be a woman i would tell you this: “Du-te-n pizda matii!”, but you would say that we romanians are reacting like that to all the negative comments people are making about us (or “constructive”).
If you were so unlucky to marry a romanian dude why are you extrapolating his family behaviour to a nation of 22 milions? I can say the same thing about a red-neck nation lead by a guy called Bush. The stupidity percentage is constant in every country so stop eating McDonalds every day!
Comment by Visio — July 10, 2008 @ 12:29 am |
show me your statistics that everyone in the West eats McDonalds? I don’t and I know alot of other people who do not either. What a stupid remark
Comment by Charles — July 7, 2009 @ 7:18 pm |
That was spot-on. About the way I feel about this whole culture. Lacking in assertive communication, not to mention the narcissism you encounter in so many places, on an individual basis, and even on a national scale.
Like how people were fiercely defending the country on Anthony Bourdain’s blog, sometimes referring to Americans as fat, ignorant and stupid, blaming the gypsies, even going so far as saying Americans have no culture at all, because of their cultural diversity; and then when you checked the comments on a news story posted on a romanian news media website, everyone agreed with his views on what he saw, and at the same time, blaming the Romanian government and the people. Hypocrisy at its best.
Comment by Radu — August 7, 2008 @ 9:29 pm |
Claudia, all this bashing of romanians as a whole comes from your need to defensivly find flaws in other people, maybe you have a sort of “need” to place blame on anything, so that the obvious fact that the problem is you yourself, and not everybody else, will not not surface. Just try to think that maybe, just maybe, it’s not the entire Romanian people, that fals under your descriptions, so much as everybody you know and interact with, so just consider the posibility that you solicit that kind of behaviour in some people, and maybe that’s why “THEY” wont let you join their new group, or help you, or woud lie to you, and maybe they’r complaints are not about “a lot”, “about themselves”, “about anyone else”, or “about anything” so much as they are about your way of bringing them up (just as you did here) .I dont think I’d like you either, if all this “constructive feedback” shoots out of you like you are some kind of moral superhero trapped here in EVIL Romania by the alldestructive Kriptonite that is the Romanian behavior pattern and lifestyle. How much atencion do you realy need? how much more untill you stop this ridiculous selfhatred driven atempt to impress the “ALLMIGHTY FOREINERS” doo you realy think anyone, other than Romanian people, cares about your spell checked insights on what beeing a Romanian citizen summs up to, you realy think that if you write slandarous filth coupeld with neetly folded appologies for being “Romanian”, while at the same time drawing on the conclusion that despite being Romanian you are moraly superior by admision and reveral of all thees generalizations that “plague us all”. What is it you realy hope to see writen here on this forum ? is it.. “Dear Claudia, we the collective gathering of all forein nations, accept and embrace your vastly superior beeing, DESPITE YOUR ROMANIANNESS, and accept you as an equal.” ??? Is that it ? Is that what your going for here ? Look at your sory ass writig this filth about your own damn self in excange for 2 cents worth of acceptance and empathy comming from these sorry ass forein “woonded” who have nothing beter to do than post here and curl up in some dark corner and bitch about what they think of Romanian people, having met les than 5 of the 22+ milion, and exert judgement based on that alone.
So Claudia, please tell us why you feel the need to smeare us with this garbage, I am not alone when I say that you have some followup explaining to do.
Tell us what city you live in, where does your family come from, what kind of education do you have and please don’t spear us the details on what led you to vocalize this Anti-Romanian manifestation.
Just know… that whatever this or these Romanian people have done to you to bring this colour out in you is not reason enough to hate everybody. Try to look at their personalities and not on their nationality and if you realy must, grade them, not their nation.
Hopefully some day you will mature to look back at that post an feel naturaly shamed by that juvenile and irational peek at your moraly young mind.
All the Best.
Comment by clujeanul — August 14, 2008 @ 5:46 am |
Hello Claudia,
I found your words trying to understand Romanians better cause I have a serious problem with one of them. I have feeling the better I treat him the worse he gives me back, as one of your commentators said… when he is good he is really a nice person, but when the things goes wrong he is awful. These transformations I simply can’t understand.
And… the answer for Luci… Yes, I tried to give a chance to a Romanian, I tried to help, to understand, to pull him from misery, to give support… I have been fighting for him having nothing in return… The only result is his statement that he does not deserve me and that he ungratefully turn his back to me concluding that he can’t go over the obstacles before him. I love this person with all my heart, but I am so disappointed.
Ira
Comment by Ira — August 24, 2008 @ 3:40 pm |
I don’t understand why you people are so mean about this country and the people who live their, don’t you know not every one is the same. you should give them a benifet of a dhout.
Comment by Kat — October 4, 2008 @ 3:35 am |
answers. yahoo. com. au/ question/ …
Comment by singles — December 2, 2008 @ 12:22 am |
Wow. This is too intense for me.My fiance is Romanian born in Germany.I do not see or have witnessed any of these characteristics in him or his mom and brother.
I am Mexican and Italian mix.It bothers me about visiting Romania because of this.It seems scary to me.
Comment by bunnygotblog — January 1, 2009 @ 3:55 am |
Hi Claudia,
Thank you for your blog,
I am a 32 y.o. Romanian woman and have been ashamed to be Romanian for a long time, more so in the last 8 years I’ve lived in Britain. It is only after I left the country that I began to really self-identify as a Romanian , as it started coming up in every conversation I would have:’So where are you from?’ Here in Britain, Romanians are the latest wave of immigrants and (to some locals ) a pest. And so I was often made to feel bad – intentionally or not. I am ashamed of much of our recent history/politics. I feel so angry that our orphan children were treated as we all now know and of course I am disgusted with the past and present racism against the Romas in Romania and Europe. Clearly this is not only a Romanian problem, but I think it is important to admit to it, and I hear a lot of stupid defensses when I speak to people about these issues, like: ‘Who stops ‘gypsies’ from prospering, they like begging, etc…’
Yet before leaving Romania I endured a lot of racism in my own home country for being married to a Black British man, it trully made me sad when some relatives and friends made hurtful comments , although in the end most got to know him and could overgrow stupid inherited racist behaviour.
I can’t really say much about the new generation, as I am not there anymore, but many Romanian men seemed to me misoginistic, even when educated. But there are of course many Romanian friends – male – whom I dearly love despite of this, even if I will argue with them when I think they are being sexist. They are, like me and most others, the product of a whole cultural, socio-economic background, etc. It is like others here have noted ‘only human’, we are all flawed and it takes effort to see past what we’ve been taught.
But I wish we would be able to identify less and less as nations, it trully makes no sense in today’s world…. I went to Hungary recently and felt double bad to be Romanian, there is as much hate for Romanians there as I’ve seen in Romania for Hungarians. I understand people feel strongly about history and ancestors, but it is the past!!!! What a pity that we should hate each other for things that cannot be changed. Borders are in reality just lines in the sand , why do we have to be so mean to each other? If there is a future for humanity, it can only be post-nationalistic or somehow transcend unreal boundaries between people…
Comment by maria — February 9, 2009 @ 6:47 pm |
I found this page because I recently met a Romanian woman living here in the U.S. and I wanted to learn more about her culture. What I found was that complex collection of qualities called “human nature.”
People will always find someone or something to “hate.”
In the U.S., we “hate” illegal immigrants because there are so many of them and because they cause a lot of crime, mostly directed at themselves but not always (you see, they hate each other if from different countries or from different neighborhoods, like whites used to do a couple of centuries ago).
However, if they were not here we would go back to “hating” Blacks, or if Black we’d go back to hating the whites.
I can tell you as an American, we have witnessed American “liberals” spend the last eight years stridently “hating” American “conservatives.” Now, American “conservatives” are beginning to really hate American “liberals.”
But if none of the above were here we’d “hate” someone else, such as the ethnic group which arrived most recently (even though we are ALL descendents of ethnic groups ourselves). It may be natural for the Hungarians to hate the Romanians and the Romanians to hate the Hungarians, but if they were one people, they’d find someone else to “hate,” just like everyone else.
That’s human nature; to at least fear and often “hate” what we don’t understand, what we don’t know or who is not like us (the recently decoded human genome shows all humans are almost identical. Imagine that? We are all “hating” the exact same thing; humanity itself).
As everyone here knows this hatred began when man first began to think, and it will continue until God sends His son back to Earth for the Second time, when He will stop all hatred, and those doing the hating will be filled with regret.
In the meantime, let us try to stop “hating” so much. And try and hold accountable anyone who stirs up yet more hate.
Comment by Daniel — March 16, 2009 @ 9:52 pm |
Wow, you are a douche bag. How can you generalize the whole population of Romania? Go to hell you fucking bastard!!!
Comment by Cristina — May 6, 2009 @ 6:02 am |
cristina
I am just giving two examples (of many) of what many people are saying around the internet that is all.
people like your country’s beauty but think many of the Romanians attitude is just awful and seem to be angry and have a very selfish attitude to everything all the time.
That is what people are saying and its is not my fault that Romanian people are projecting their country in this way to the rest of the world.
Just typical people share their experiences of what they feel or what has happened to them and all you Romanians can go do on this blog is to go in a mass hysteria on the verge of stabbing someone. You cannot accept any form of criticism or other peoples feelings/opinions but your own. You are very self centered and selfish.
All you seem capable of doing is hurl abuse
Comment by suse — May 7, 2009 @ 6:44 am |
Now, let me put it in this way: how many people died because of an AMERICAN ATOMIC BOMB? I am talking about the innocent here, be reasonable:P
2nd: How many idiots exist in the U.S. ( like in every part of the world, DOH, my name isn’t Claudia and i’m not an egocentristic socio-idiotic retard filled with the “worshipping” of the perfection of the American and criticising any other population of the globe ) that like to SPEND LIKE IDIOTS FOR SHITS? TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE NOW-DAYS economic crysis… Seriously… You f*cking s*ck, even harder than DRACULA ( Romanian trademark, be serious:)) )
3rd, but not the least: Pentru articolul asta, sincer, Ceausescu ar fi un mic copil pentru tine, cu ce ar trebui sa patesti. Sa iti denigrezi tara in care ai crescut e un mare pacat… Doar pentru ca parintii tai nu au avut posibilitatile materiale ( mult mai probabil intelectuale )sa te educe intr-un mediu boem si aristocratic asta nu inseamna ca poti zice ca toata Romania face la fel ca cretinopatii din fata blocului tau.
4th. Oamenii sunt egoisti. Nu numai Romanii. Sau esti prea dobitoaca sa-ti dai seama?
5th. I’m really sorry for the insultes ( I just can’t take the shit anymore) , though I am sorry for everybody except CLAUDIA, who is a big fraude.
For instance, if there was a blog, by a Romanian, who lives in the States, that tries to destroy the “beautiful face of the Liberty Statue or the US Face”, and is hosted in the states, what happenes? The blog is shut down, and FBI + CIA = LOVE comes in to investigate: ” We are talking here about possible terrorists. ” Right, AMERICANS?
Comment by dracidus — June 12, 2009 @ 5:03 pm |
I am not American but I just wondering why there seems to be alot of Romanians on this blog have a deep hatred of everyone and everything in the USA.
Has ther something happened in your history which has made you this way.
Comment by cheryl — June 12, 2009 @ 10:03 pm |
seriously, you didn’t get my message. no problem, earth must be populated with people like you. the kind that think they know everything, but are not so gifted in the intelectual way… sorry for you, i feel really bad
Comment by dracidus — June 12, 2009 @ 10:06 pm |
I was only asking a question as there is so much hatred poured out in this blog about the Americans and also the West, come to think of it
Yes people have said some hurtful things about Romania on this blog and some of it was petty insults (which should not be said about anyone, no matter what country they live in, name calling is childness behaviour) what i am trying to say is that even when the contributor writes about their own bad experiences in visiting Romania(It is only there observations of what had happened to them)it seems like some of the Romanians on this site instantly think it is written by an American and so go into a viscious attack on all Americans and what the country stands far.
No I am not stupid and I know I do not know everything that is why I asked the question in the first place
Yet again Dracidus you are another Romanian on this site who is defensive and insulting and cannot explain the reasons without being viscious and foul mouthed.
You all seem to find it so easy to brag about how superior you are and how your Romanian women are all beautiful and that everyone else in the world are ugly, fat and stupid and lazy and that the West and especially the USA are beneath you in everything(such a smug attitudes you have about yourselves)
As I said before I only asked a question all you are capable of doing is giving only insults back.
Comment by cheryl — June 13, 2009 @ 8:10 am |
still, you didn’t get my point. let me put it this way: the author of the blog is Romanian. Correct? so, it isn’t fair that she is saying things about Romania. Do be honest, I do agree on the authors point of view, yes, SOME Romanians can be very mean and egoistic… But, I think I am an exception. It’s just my opinion, but I know it for sure that there are Romanians that do not fit at all in the description. I was rude and I will be rude because of what people like the author are talking sH!t about their home country. Before they start insulting Romania, or any other country, I would like to ask what is their official nationality/es, written on the ID or passport… If they are Romanians or w/e, then they are making themselves a fool. Sorry for the insults, but still, you aren’t quite as intellectually gifted as you would consider. Why? Because you think that Romania and/or other countries have a problem with USA. I don’t have a issue with the US, but, before you start talking sh!t about other countries (whatever is your nationality), consider that no one’s perfect and you shouldn’t be so harsh or rude…
And to explain my coarse language? Give to the Caesar what belongs to the Caesar, and to God what belongs to God:)
Comment by dracidus — June 13, 2009 @ 9:12 pm |
USA did a lot of sh!t in their own past. Why does everybody believe it’s so perfect and all?
Comment by dracidus — June 13, 2009 @ 9:15 pm |
Dracidus
“you aren’t quite as intellectually gifted as you would consider. Why? Because you think that Romania and/or other countries have a problem with USA”.
No read my words – I said the people on this blog seem to have an issue I did not say all of Romania or other countries (You all seem to find it so easy to brag about how superior you…) this paragraph was aimed at the people on this blog not all of Romania(and why do you keep going on about intellectually gifted) Who are you to judge my level of intelligence.
Yes I agree the author of this blog is stabbing her fellow Romanians and her own country in the back. Why i do not know you will have to ask her and what are her reasons to set up a blog about Romania if she hates so much.
Yes the USA has bad times in their history and no they are not perfect (the same goes for every country)
But this blog seems to be all about bitter and twisted people who just want to do is condem and judge others and their countries (especially it seems the USA and the West)
I stumbled on this blog thinking I would get an insight into Romanian people and their culture. Boy was I wrong!! I will look for another one
Comment by cheryl — June 21, 2009 @ 9:11 am |
Ok, so, I’m really sorry for being rude, but we are talking about 2 different things…:)) so, what would you do in my place? Would you accept that someone will insult not your home country, but mostly your family, friends and co.?… Cheryl, before we will pursue in a bigger discussion, a lot of good people died for Romania. People that most surely died for decent people, not like the blog owner. And yes, I may have the right to have an opinion on your intelligence level, because we live in a democratic world. Take it as an advice and stop surfing the net:))
Comment by dracidus — June 24, 2009 @ 1:09 pm |
FOR ALL OF YOU THAT CRITICIZE ROMANIA AND THE ROMANIAN PEOPLE INCLUDING ALL OF YOU IGNORANT HUNGARIANS, YOU NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR FIRST BEFORE YOU SPEAK. I CAME FROM A BIG FAMILY OF 7 CHILDREN AND NONE OF US ARE THIEFS. WE ARE ALL VERY WELL OFF WITH GREAT PROFESSIONS. THERE ARE ROMANIAN PEOPLE AND THERE ARE GYPSIS. OUR COUNTRY WENT THROUGH SO MUCH HELL AND SACRIFICE FROM ALL OVER THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, ESPECIALLY FROM RUSSIA AND HUNGARY. THEY STOLE OUR IDENTITY AND FORCED US TO GO THROUGH THE COMMUNIST REGIME FOR SEVERAL GENERATIONS AND MADE OUR PEOPLE SUFFER. WHAT HAS OCURED TO US, IT’S EXUAL TO MODERN SLAVERY. EVENTHOUGH WE LEFT OUR ROMANIAN COUNTRY AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE, WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE PROUD TO BE ROMANIAN.
Comment by Doinita Calin — June 26, 2009 @ 4:40 am |
Cheryl,
Re: “… so much hatred poured out in this blog about the Americans and also the West, come to think of it” You got it all twisted: Why the hatred toward us, the Romanians, from outsiders who’ve merely visited Bucharest or other bigger centres?!! We, the Romanians, are being knocked down, it’s not about you! I bet none of the people that have criticized us would have done so, had this debate been done face to face. The internet gives you (and your like) that anonimity and thus, you have the arrogance to talk so much nonsense. Yes, it’s true, Claudia has done us a great disservice in many respects, but I also appreciate the fact that her blog has allowed everyone to speak his/her mind.
Look, even by the mere fact that Romanian bloggers are writing in English so that we can have on open communication with all of you atest to the fact that we are educated, hard working, goal oriented,and motivated. And yet, there are people here who have the nerve to paint us all Romanians with one brush stroke. Why, because your experience with a cabbie was nasty, because some dumb-dumb cut you off on the road, because your Romanian boyfriend was using you for a booty-call etc. Give me a fucking break!
I no longer live in Romania, but I’ve seen human nature at its worst in this “land of opportunity”, in this “developed” country. For example: A guy convicted of chopping his pregnant wife to pieces; Hell’s Angels, Indian Posse, Fresh Off the Boat, Red Alert – all stupid retarded gangs, child molesters, wife beaters, red-neck inbreds, etc.- all this crazy shit that is ALL-OVER the five o’clock news… Of course, you might say well that just the media, or we’re not all like that, or that’s a bad area of town. Well, I grew up in Romania in a small town and I’ve never been exposed to such degree of depravity, yet there are bloggers here that dare to say or paint us in such a derogatory and condescending way!
The point that people like Dracidus, and Doinita are trying to make here is that we, Romanians, come from a proud people and culture that transcends over thousands of years. We have a history of strong warriors, eloquent poets and musicians, inventors, and leaders. Therefore, I, too, take ofence at the remarks that were made here about Romanians, all under the pretext: “well this is my experience with Romanians”
Well, I hope this covers it
Comment by pappy — June 26, 2009 @ 7:35 am |
Please consider this before judging:
In WWII , USA fought to get a bigger slice of cheese, while Romania fought to prevent it’s extinction, which was almost destroyed by some f-ing commies…
While Roosevelt gave a crap of anything else but America’s children, children in Romania were brought in almost starvation. Why? Because of jackasses like Stalin who stole Romania’s crops and thesaurus.
Sincerly being, you should be ashamed of yourself. And this is an open statement for the blog owner to shut down the blog. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS A SCUM OF THE IDIOCRACY STALLIN AND CEAUSESCU CREATED!
@blog owner: CLOSE THE BLOG! YOU ARE SERIOUSLY MENTALLY CHALLENGED!
Comment by dracidus — June 27, 2009 @ 1:51 am |
Pappy
can you not understand what I have said in my comments, I said the people on this blog have a twisted perception. I did not state and never have stated all Romanians. Actually you are the worse person on this blog for such vicious attacks on other people. I do not talk nonsense and no I do not hide behind the internet, what makes you think that I am afraid to confront you face to face because of I am not scared of you, your just a bully.
“Romanians, come from a proud people and culture that transcends over thousands of years. We have a history of strong warriors, eloquent poets and musicians, inventors, and leaders. Therefore, I, too, take ofence at the remarks that were made here about Romanians”
Well other countries are the same we have eloquent poets etc and why should we accept you condination of all the people in the West and accept that you class everyone the same. It cuts both ways and we are offended by your remarks.
dracidus – get your facts straight USA joined in the middle of WW11 and why? because they where attack by the Japanese first and after many attempts to to try and get peace they retaliated back.
So no they did not fight to get a bigger slice of the cheese as you said but to defend their land. Unlike Romania who fought on the side of the Nazis and supported Stalin, Hitler etc, putting their own people into death camps and starving majority of their people through poverty only to turn tail and join the other side near the end of the war. Grow up, this blog is pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by cheryl — June 27, 2009 @ 9:29 pm |
As you know, you are speaking about the Pearl Harbour incident. You may (or surely) are right, but they got the cheese… Oh, btw, does anybody know that in 1945 Romania was being hit by the USA and Russia?:) It’s not so known but to the people who are passionate by history, but it’s called Ploiesti and Pitesti bombardament… Why? Because Romania was a no-man’s land… Nobody gave a fucking crap about us:D innocent people died there, so… USA deserves to find out what HOLOCAUST means. If they found out at that specific moment, maybe the Americans wouldn’t have been so arrogant when it comes to defending USA… Or when it comes to their superiority over other countries…
@ pappy: who was the big winner of WW1? I’d bet you won’t guess it in a million yrs:) ( tip: the home land for The Bank of America, who made huge credits to repair the ruins of Europe… :>)
Comment by dracidus — June 29, 2009 @ 2:55 am |
Dracidus
You have just shown your true colours and like alot of Romanians on this blog you are bitter, jealous, viscious and can only reply with insults, regarding the west and especially the USA and what are you on about got the cheese are really so stupid. So yet again USA and the West have to take everything thrown at them and have people bomb them etc and you expect us to stand there like some retard with a grin on our faces and do nothing.
Also get your facts straight you do not history very well do you, it was 1943 / 1944 when Romania supplied Nazi Germany and the Axis armies with oil, grain, and industrial products. Consequently, by 1943 Romania became a target of Allied aerial bombardment. One of the most notable air bombardments was the attack on the oil fields of Ploieşti on August 1, 1943. Accept the fact that your country supported Hitler and his facist regime and that Romania was a main contributor to the holocaust killing many thousands of the own people. Romanian soldiers worked with the Einsatzkommando, German killing squads, to massacre Jews in conquered territories and that Romanian troops were in large part responsible for the Odessa massacre, in which over 100,000 Jews were shot during the autumn of 1941.
grow up and goodbye you idiot
Comment by cheryl — June 30, 2009 @ 8:19 pm |
Please, point out a place in history that says precisely that jews were killed on Romanian fields.
2nd: What to be jealous for? Trust me, i’m not. You want insults? Fine, “smarty pants”. In 1945, Romania was bombarded by both Axis and Allies, you stupid, idiotic and, by all means, selfish ignorant. This fact doesn’t appear in history books because no one likes to addmit that they bombed some teritory, without caring who does and doesn;t die. Satisfied, biotch? Or do you want to hear more insults? This shit happened, oh, and btw, ROMANIA FINNISHED WWII IN THE ALLIES! Do you remember that, idiot?
Oh, and yes, my rage will pursue until you will stop acting selfish, making stupid claims like “you, Romanians, are very hateful”, get over it and, if you really want to say smth about us, VISIT US! Then, your opinion, good, bad, w/e, would be gladly accepted. At least by myslef. Have a nice day, Bitch!
Comment by dracidus — July 1, 2009 @ 5:12 pm |
So pathetic aren’t you, what do you do if your wife or girlfriend argues with you do you call them bitch as well. Sounds like you are the type who cannot control his temper no doubt you use your fists as well to get what you want.
Yes As I have already said before in the blog the Romanians turned near the end of the war and joined allies but being so stupid you wouldn’t have understood what I wrote would you. So who is the idiot now huh!
Also as i said the remarks I made where about the people on this blog (not all of Romania)who are aggressive, foul mouthed and ignorant and when someone challenges your opinions all you can do is say BITCH!!!! Grow up.. ooh I am scared NOT!!!!
Yes I will visit Romania as I know there are alot of nice people in Romania, this blog is the exception (yes I have had contact with other Romanians on other blogs and when I pointed this blog out they said it was not the true image of Romanian people and they found the blog and the Romanian people like you who write on it, an insult to the Romanian people and their country)
As for my sources check this out do you not know your own history ???? So do not ridicule other countries histories look at your own
http://www.claremontmckenna.edu/hist/jpetropoulos/ironguard/holocaust.htm
Say what you want I do not care I have finished with this blog, I cannot be bothered with people like you. Life is too short. There much better blogs out there with a better class of Romanian people. Unlike you
Comment by cheryl — July 1, 2009 @ 7:25 pm |
Cheryl, you’re a retard! I don’t know how you could see my entry (43) as a threat (as much I’d like to kick some Western ass!)… As I am typing this, I am watching the news and another retard like you called 911 because there are cows loose on the road. She is really frantic about this, LOL! You might know her…
Comment by pappy — July 5, 2009 @ 7:18 am |
Oh, and in the event you missunderstand me again, these are Western news. OK ?!!
Comment by pappy — July 5, 2009 @ 7:21 am |
@pappy: Bafta, sper tu sa le distrugi sanatatea mintala handicapatilor ( ce mesaj de propaganda:)))
@bloghost: Thx for the ban, sper sa mori in lanturile iadului, futu-ti mortii matii de ipocrita handicapata care ai uitat de unde ai plecat!
@rest: Sorry for the coarse language, but it was needed. Cherryl is still a biotch!:D
Comment by dracidus — July 5, 2009 @ 11:11 am |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_in_Romania#Romania
It may be wikipedia, but it includes a link to the official report on the matter.
Judging by many of the comments here left by romanians and by what I’ve seen, not much seems to have changed from then.
Also, even if there are way too many narcissists/sociopaths in Romania, I don’t understand why the people who are not like this feel like they’re responsible for what is done by the ones who are, like when everyone feels like they have to defend the image of their country, even if they don’t negatively contribute to it.
And I don’t find it surprising that nothing seems to ever change; every time someone notices something bad, everyone takes it personally. Fragile egos and this lack of people allowing themselves to have opinions (unless they complacently see their opinions as facts) obviously isn’t doing any good. Obviously, there are problems, and they need to be acknowledged in order to solve them and move on. But no, apparently in this special place called Romania, they have to be denied indefinitely.
@Cheryl – I’m sorry you’ve had to put up with this madness. As you may know, the best way to deal with these psycho attention-whores is to just ignore them, and I’m glad that’s what you’ve decided to do.
Comment by Radu — July 7, 2009 @ 1:06 am |
I just have too much free time, so here I am, again:))
Hi, Radu, sau salut, nene! Daca esti roman, nu te intoarce aici, nu e de tine:) Ramai acolo, e mai bine!
Yes, my fragile psychotic ego has done it again. So here I am:))) Listen, buster( if you are Romanian. better deny it already), do you have any idea how many people died for you? If you had, you would have shut up:) so, you don’t. If you are a foreigner, consider this: if I would insult your home-country, saying that EVERYBODY IS SHIT and stuff, wouldn’t you be a little bit insulted? I mean, God, thanks for making be a whoe, you stupid hypocrit asshole! Yes, I do not feel comfortable when somebody makes me idiot or shit for free. At least I’m pulling my weight off this! If you like being called idiot, go to a BDSM bar and have fun. Never come back in Romania! Ipocrit ratat ce esti!
Comment by dracidus — July 7, 2009 @ 1:15 am |
I know I am in deep mistake here, but I don’t really care. I like insulting back people who insult me:D It’s a free time hobby, I can easily get off the stress wagon!
Comment by dracidus — July 7, 2009 @ 1:16 am |
For anyone interested, http://www.evenimentul.ro/articol/in-romania-nu-a.html . Read this , ROMANIA ISN’T MEMBER OF THE HOLOCAUST COMMUNITY! DEAL WITH IT!!!
Comment by dracidus — July 7, 2009 @ 1:23 am |
dracidus,
re: # 52 lol. I am trying buddy. I know that I laid it all a little thicker (the propaganda) that I normally would, it’s nonetheless true. It’s all good!
Comment by pappy — July 7, 2009 @ 4:27 am |
So what was the lasi pogrom then (mass excution of Romanian Jews by Romanian soldiers on the soil of Romania in support of Nazi germany) what would you call this then?
There was even a film released recently about it in Romania called Călătoria lui Gruber
http://www.cinefan.ro/film.php?film_id=2814
you are just in denial
Comment by ion — July 7, 2009 @ 1:10 pm |
Cheryl I know you are no longer reading this blog and cannot blame you, Dracidus and Pappy are the worse of what Romania has to offer. Trust me if you do comeback to this blog that these people are just the scum you come across in life and I know that you know most people are not like this.
Dracidus and Pappy want to be ashamed of themselves, they are a disgrace to Romania and we will never move forward because it is people like them that is holding Romania back and inforcing the stereotype of what people in the West see us as.
Comment by ion — July 7, 2009 @ 7:10 pm |
I agree and they should say sorry to Cheryl, i think they both should be banned from this blog they are the filth of Romania
Comment by marcelD — July 7, 2009 @ 7:13 pm |
Alo, baietii, va place sa pupati in cur? Ia pupati-ma si pe mine, marcel si ion, si-asa duc lipsa de pupincurisme. Mai cretinilor, voi la orele de istorie unde erati? Pe centura Bucuresti-Constanta? Construiati canalul Dunare-Marea Neagra? Boilor, cretinilor si handicapatilor, Pogromul de la Iasi, din cate stiu eu, a fost organizat de trupe SS. Camasi negre, boilor, care erau in drum spre Grecia. Sau stati, n-ati auzit de WWII in Balcani… Sunteti praf, pulbere fina! Pe vremea cand guvernul roman in frunte cu Antonescu a luptat pentru tara asta, de era sa ramanem fara Transilvania, ce ne-o luau ungurii… Ce stiti voi, boilor? Hitler a pus bocancu pe harta Romaniei, adica pe mai toata Transilvania. Daca nu acceptam ca noi sa fim sub suzeranitate nemteasca, pierdeam tara aia, si restul romanilor oricum mureau in razboi. Dar voi sunteti boi, ciobani, plecati in p#zda mamii voastre in tari straine, ca acolo le sta bine lingailor care au uitat de unde au pornit. Cate trenuri au plecat de la Iasi catre Auschwitz? Da, vreo 20. Cate au ajuns? NICIUNUL! Eu stiu de la profa mea de istorie (eu locuiesc in Iasi), care e de loc din Pascani, ca au fost copii si parintii la trenurile cu detinuti sa le dea mancare, undeva, dupa gara. Si treaba asta a durat mai bine de un an, pana sa ii elibereze… Dar voi sunteti incredibil de stupizi, puneti botu la fiecare duma care o scoate Occidentu. Auzi frate, Antonescu a fost un criminal mai mare decat Hitler, ca a omorat mai multi evrei decat el. Aia sunt prosti, rau de tot. Ma intreb daca s-au gandit mult pana sa scoata perla asta, minciuna asta sfruntata. ROMANIA NU A FOST IN HOLOCAUST! NE-AM APARAT TARA, IDIOTILOR! DEAL WITH IT!
Comment by dracidus — July 7, 2009 @ 10:14 pm |
Hello, hypocrites, suicide already! You should be ashamed of yourself for being such idiots and assholes. Who is your biggest f-ing idol? Ceausescu? No, better yet, Elena Ceausescu. Seriously, shoot yourself! You’re nothing more than scumbags. Deal with it!
Comment by dracidus — July 7, 2009 @ 10:16 pm |
I agree with Ion and Marcel, although in my opinion, banning (censorship) isn’t really the way to go. I support their right to embarrass themselves the same way I support my (and others’) right to be critical of them. And I really don’t think they actually care about the place they’re supposedly defending, as they’re hell-bent on reinforcing this same old stereotype.
Comment by [name] — July 7, 2009 @ 11:57 pm |
Regarding the holocaust issue there are facts out there that say yes and some say no, it is up to your own self to make your own decision and conscience about it all. My opinion is it happened.
No I do not agree “comment by (name)what you said about Ion and Marcel have the right to embarrass themselves, what a pathetic, ignorant person you are. All you have done is to embarrass yourself by the remarks you made and it only makes you look really stupid. These two people do care about their Romanian roots and are defending their country by saying that Dracidus and Pappy are the ones as you say “”hell-bent on reinforcing this same old stereotype”" it is these type of people who give Romania a bad image and yes the issue re the Holocaust is a bit of dark Romanian history people want to forget or avoid as well as the Ceausescu era but it happened and cannot be hidden away and people cannot be in denial about it. It is not not noted on the internet to degrade a country and its people but it is raised and kept alive so people do not forget and do not bring it back to life again.
However, I must point out it was Dracidus who started it all by bringing up the WW11 issue and insulting people from other countries regarding it when there was no need.
He seems he has the god given right to insult other people and other people’s countries, generalise people as all the same but when someone replies back he cannot handle it and goes into a rage of abuse. Riding on his tails as usual is his sidekick Pappy who has a full time job on this site insulting and upsetting people.
Cheryl raised the issue here speaking her mind about how she thought that a small minority on this blog seem bitter and twisted and have a blinkered opinion of people in the West. She did not condem Romania or its people in fact according to her she has met other Romanians on other sites who are really nice. She is not a bitch and there was no need to insult her. In fact it is people like her who we should encourage as she seems keen to learn about Romania and it culture (what is wrong with that)Cheryl has no hatred towards Romania and its people but Dracidus and Pappy have been so horrible and viscious towards this woman for no reason whatsoever. You want to be ashamed of yourselves.
Yes she did bring up the Holocaust issue citing a link but this was in retalation to Dracidus insults regarding USA having a bigger slice of the cheese in WW11. When clearly he knows nothing about World history. In fact Dracidus USA only joined the War when they were attacked first by Japan and then Germany decided to declare war on the USA afterwards and no they did not get a big slice of the Cheese as you put it.
Dracidus response “Hello, hypocrites, suicide already! You should be ashamed of yourself for being such idiots and assholes. Who is your biggest f-ing idol? Ceausescu? No, better yet, Elena Ceausescu. Seriously, shoot yourself! You’re nothing more than scumbags. Deal with it!”
Well Dracidus you do not seem to understand what has been written by people on this blog, that these are responses of anger and disgust towards you. No matter where these people live and who they are, do you really think these people will sit there and take your abuse and narrow minded opinions of them and the country they come from?. People are not hypocrites as you said (do you not not know what the word means?)but you are a bitter angry twisted person who inflicts pain and unhappiness on people as it seems to pleasure you.
Yes some people on this site have shared their encounters. Yes some are genuine unhappy times that they have had and yes there is a minority of people who are not Romanian but are just like you on this blog who do not know nothing about the world and its people and who just want to incite anger in people.
As for writing in Romanian instead of using English like you usually do (what is all this about?)I mean have you not heard of google translation. We non speaking Romanians can understand what you are saying anyway so what was the point of it all??? You are not clever in doing this.
I think it is time for Dracidus and Pappy to be adult about this an apologise to Cheryl and others they have insulted on this site.
But alas I feel a load of abuse coming my way from them as I know this is all they are capable of.
Comment by Peter — July 8, 2009 @ 11:37 am |
Uhm, Peter, I’m afraid you didn’t understand my last comment, what I meant to say was, I agree with Ion and Marcel [...] and I think dracidus and pappy should have the right to embarrass themselves [...] as they seem hell-bent on reinforcing the same old stereotype. So I agree with what you’ve said about this.
As for everything else, thank you, I think that was spot-on
Comment by [name] — July 8, 2009 @ 1:18 pm
Oh, and the holocaust denial… big no-no, obviously.
Comment by [name] — July 7, 2009 @ 11:59 pm |
(name)
sorry about that I mis read what you wrote please accept my apologies
Peter
Comment by Peter — July 8, 2009 @ 4:56 pm |
Peter,
I really hope that you’re not the same “Peter” from a couple of months ago that was freaking out about his bad Romanian experience (that we’re all thieves, etc.)! Because if you are, then you gotta check that Multiple Personality Disorder thing that you have going on. If you are a different Peter, then carry on…
Ion ai Marcel,
I have nothing to be apologetic for. I said my piece to Cheryl. I would say it to her face (and this for the love of God is not a threat, as I don’t expect my message to come across as bullying). The fact is everyone is doing SELECTIVE READING, and so do you. You choose to call me the worst kind of Romania, what does that say about your thought process. Maybe you should apologize for insulting me; how’bout that!
Comment by pappy — July 8, 2009 @ 9:30 pm |
no i am not the peter you are thinking of and no i will not say sorry to you either.
i never said you are the worst kind of Romanian (selective reading on your part)
I said hell-bent on reinforcing this same old stereotype and have been so horrible and viscious towards this woman for no reason whatsoever. Finally i said you have a full time job on this site insulting and upsetting people.
I will not say sorry because you have insulted and been abusive too many people on this site, some I may say deserved it but alot did not. I have not insulted you I have given you my opinion about the situation and made a statement about your continous vulgur, abusive behaviour on this blog
I think you should apologise yourself as it has been you and Dracidus who have caused all of this (not just to this woman called Cheryl but to many others as well.
Comment by Peter — July 8, 2009 @ 9:54 pm |
I have to say something about [name]: If you really cared what I said in Romanian, GOOGLE TRANSLATE IT! It was a message for those two scumbags from above. W/e, you still remain an idiot:))
2nd: How long did the Pearl Harbour attack last? If I remember well, it was like 22 minutes. Trust me, Pearl Harbour is the official event that made USA join the war. But I know shit, right?
3rd: Romanian officials declared out in the media that that study presented earlier is a fraude. Because it’s not true. But, yet again, Romania was a bigger jew-killer than Germany. Are you freakin’ kiddin me, man? No, you’re just a fucking idiot! Yes, and my rage will go on in my own rythm, until I will get bored of talkin’ trash around! Do you have a problem with that? TELL IT TO THE JUDGE!
3rd: Nobody’s denying Ceausescu. I’m not, he’s an idiot too, like you. Oh, yeah, interesting question for your history knowledge: Which was the first Allied army to set foot in Berlin?( easy one, I don’t have time to ask you big shits you can’t find on Google, like the answer at this que) Buuuut, yet again, I suck at world history. Btw, how many jews died in Auschwitz? ( it’s a Wiki one:)) )
This shit will go on and ond for ever because you are idiots. If I were American and I would have started an e-blog to insult USA, most of you idiots would have called me an hypocrite. But, yet again…
oh, and @peter: Go fucking kill yourself with your own remorse and guilt!
Comment by dracidus — July 8, 2009 @ 10:07 pm |
Oh, btw, [name], you are a really big douche! Evidence? After Cheryl said I was wrong about the USA entry, my next response was that I knew about the Pearl Harbour incident. But still, YOU ARE AN IDIOT! DEAL WITH IT! THIS IS MY PROOF!
Comment by dracidus — July 8, 2009 @ 10:10 pm |
Apology accepted, Peter
@ dracidus
Whatever. You really don’t think I take any of your insults seriously, do you?
Also, I have no idea what any of your “evidence” has to do with me. In fact, it’s hard to figure out what you’re talking about at all anymore, since you’ve twice in your last two comments confused me with Peter. I didn’t say anything about Cheryl in my last 2 comments, and it wasn’t me who said anything about Google Translate, tho I agree about those two points he made. Cheryl was exactly the type of person you should be thankful for, and if you’re so proud of yourself, let everyone here read your posts entirely in English, in all of their “glory”.
And the image the original blog post conveys about the Romanian people pales in comparison with the image you, pappy, and a few others are projecting. Claudia’s post would be nothing without some real-life examples, and you people have provided them, you’ve demonstrated what was written about in “On being Romanian”, and taken it to a whole new level. And you seem to think you’re doing Romanians a favor! It’s pathetic, really. Again, I think you don’t care about the country at all, it looks more like you’re using this as a kind of excuse to piss people off.
On a related note (not addressed to anyone in particular), there’s a twisted collectivism going here that I think isn’t doing any good. I think people in Romania would be a lot better off if a majority understood that the problem isn’t that there are people ruining its image — this bad image is irrelevant, and if a foreigner were to take it seriously and generalize the bad across the entire population, they’d be discriminating, which is wrong, and they shouldn’t be taken seriously.
The way I see it, the problem is that the idiot Romanians can feel free to not take any responsibility for their actions because in general, the nice, reasonable, responsible Romanians constantly feel like they have to bear the burden of the idiots, clean up their mess/cover it up, because of fear of being lumped together with them, discriminated against and being labeled as something they’re not just because of their own nationality, because of this bad image. Which leads us to the image part again, and the crippling fear of discrimination. There’s a catch-22 going on here, and I’m afraid that until this cycle is broken, until the “bad” Romanians get to freely embarrass THEMSELVES, self-destruct if they need to, without everyone else’s dignity feeling threatened, then what’s causing the image problem in the first place won’t go away anytime soon. Until people stop being afraid of them, they’ll continue to be taken seriously, which they shouldn’t.
Before dracidus tells me to stop telling Romanians what to do, I’ll go ahead and say I’m Romanian myself. I like to think of myself as pretty reasonable and I think it’s sad that people who are the same way can’t complain about certain things without being labeled unpatriotic, it’s a pretty taboo thing to do. Admitting there are problems isn’t the same thing as deliberately ruining your own image, on a group level, and on an individual level. Generally, being able to admit your own faults (nobody’s perfect/no country is perfect) is seen as a virtue, especially in other cultures, and it is. It’s counter-productive in terms of progress to deny things that have to be addressed and solved, and here I’m talking mostly on a political level, but not exclusively. I don’t see how anything could change anytime soon, when people are afraid to take the steps that are necessary to bettering themselves, as a group.
Comment by [name] — July 9, 2009 @ 1:59 am |
I’m beginning to enjoy this public debate on insults and hypocrit Romanians!
@name: Tot nu ai inteles ce voiam sa zic. Deci, ramai un retardat. De ce? Nu intelegi, te depaseste mesajul meu. nu-i nimic, nu e nevoie sa te insult in engleza, o facem in “familie”, te fac bou pe romaneste;) Poate asa vei intelege ca eu ma refeream la faptul ca daca eu faceam acelasi articol in engleza si eram de etnie americana(injuram SUA pentru marile defecte ale ei), era foarte posibil sa ma trezesc cu niste chestii foarte aiurea, de genu FBI la usa. Nu-i nimic, vor trece ani pana cand vei intelege ca tu, ca roman, e de bun simt sa iei apararea tarii. Si da, am gresit ca am injurat, dar don’soara Cheryl trebuie sa inteleaga marea de intuneric in care se afla. A, si mai era vorba de cat de ipocrita e Claudia. Acum intelegi? Or do you want the English version, oh great wise one?
PS: imi pare rau ca ti-am atribuit meritele altui retardat. dar ramai retardat prin faptul ca esti de-acord cu el. intelegi? Or do you preffer English?
@pappy: Stii, injectiile cu fenol practicate de Mengele ar prinde bine pe handicapatii astia, cica de cetatenie romana… Sau, astept raspuns din partea ta la asta:D
@Peter: Oh, Peter, Peter… I should begin my list of insults… I don’t really have time for that now, but I have time for this: Take your stereotypes about Romanians being Gypsies and shove them up your a$$! You don’t really have any clue about why I started insulting Cheryl. But, yet again, oh great wise man, you think you are right. Maybe you are. I don’t give a shit about this fact. What I do give a shit about is the fact that you are shit. Deal with it. It’s for your own good. The response I gave earlier for [name] applies for you. Do you know why? Because you’re a retard.
And yes, I’m more intelligent than you guys:)) (blow me!:D with or without your stupid remarks according which I assume of myself being perfect. I’m not, you suck thou, LIVE WITH IT:)))
Comment by dracidus — July 9, 2009 @ 3:30 pm |
Dracidus
I really think you need help about your mental health problems and anger issues. You have so much hatred in you.
if you go on like this you will either hurt someone or hurt yourself and I mean in killing someone. Get help because you really do need it.
I am not insulting you or think I am smarter but I do think you have some kind of madness that needs either drugs or counselling and you need some time spent in a mental hospital to sort your health problems out.
Hope you sort out your problems soon you cannot go on in life like this.
I read your replies and i think this person has really lost it. Get help before it is too late
Comment by Peter — July 9, 2009 @ 7:35 pm |
Comment by dracidus — July 9, 2009 @ 8:34 pm |
what a sick individual you truly are
Comment by Peter — July 10, 2009 @ 2:55 pm |
Oh Peter! Please read very carefully and slowly this time: The # 66 entry starts off with a question to you. The next paragraph is addressed to Ion si Marcel, do you see that? Ok, now READ IT AGAIN! Is it addressed to you?! What’s wrong with you! And please, don’t be so melodramatic! Re: # 67: Are you blaming me for a genocide or for stating my own opinions?
Peter, pull your head out of your ass!
Comment by pappy — July 11, 2009 @ 7:31 pm |
Name,
I think what is happening here is that you attempt to come across as a beakon of light and ambassodor of peace in this dark world of profanity users. And somehow, you think you’ve come up with the right answers on how to bring peace over the vast land of this blog; or maybe Barack Obama is your inspiration – no problem there. Some of the universal message of goodness of Romanians and who we are, our culture, our work ethic, etc. in your #70 has been reflected in other peoples’ entries! It’s nothing new! Here is the kicker though: albeit, I’ve used profanity and insults, I also tried my darndest to convey a message of proud Romanians, etc. What you are doing is point out the poor use of communication and ignore a message that we are a passionate people and … Sorry, I gotta run, but I’ll get back to finishing off my thought!!!
Comment by pappy — July 11, 2009 @ 7:46 pm |
True wise words from pappy. TE VOM IUBI MEREU!
) (ca la mj b-) )
Comment by dracidus — July 12, 2009 @ 1:20 pm |
why don’t you and pappy get a room
Comment by anon — July 26, 2009 @ 4:34 pm |
Name,
Sorry I lost my train of thought… Man, I could go on and rebut your comments, but then I’ll be accused that I am this and the other. Your call to revolution (don’t deny it) to rid this blog of bad Romanians is funny and pathetic. Anywhooo…!
You know, as I was growing up and the borders began to open to foreigners, I remember distincly the state of awe me and my buddies we were in towards these beautiful, clean, and healthy foreigners. We would go up to them and ask “Gum, gum, gum?” We revered them! We did not want to come across as wild and without manners. We would yell at each other: Bai lasa’l ma in pace, ca o sa creada ca suntem animale! LOL! Then as time went on, I continued to please them in any way a good Romanian would, because maybe they’ll remember me and send me an “invitatie” – lol. Wow! Hey maybe it was just me, a retard, and everyone else was not as absorbed with getting their attention as much as I did… My perception about them began to change when I learned that some of the foreigners were coming for the children to adopt them. Then later on, I learned that some of them were in fact taking them away so the can have sex with them. “What do you mean?”, I would ask. My boss (she was the director for an organization for children with disabilities, funded by foreigners) would try to explain to me that this particular guy that came with humanitarian aid was abusing a brother and a sister – anyways it’s a long story, and it’s merely an example. I am not suggesting that all were like that and this is NOT the example that I use as cornerstone for my arguments.
My point is this: as Romanians, we have (or used to have) these inherent traits of hospitality, to make a good impression, to take from your mouth in order to feed the guest(s). You would slap your child or sibling and make the following remark or something along the lines: “I am so sorry for the way my… behaves, we are not like that. Please come again” This is what is happening here: Some of you make apologies for others and hope that foreigners would not think anything less of you, because you feel embarrassed for me. Here’s the news folks: YOU DON’T PAY MY BILLS, I DON’T OWE YOU ANYTHING!! THESE ARE MY OPINIONS ABOUT YOU AND YOUR COMMENTS!! IT DOES NOT MAKE ROMANIANS ANYMORE OR ANY LESS. I always took the stand against those who’ve used keywords like : all, most, a lot of romanians, etc., in order to make negative or derogatory remarks. I challenge you to read my entries and you’ll see that this is true.
I admit that my conversations that followed my intial comment addressed to someone would become counterproductive, but by then it didn’t matter, as it would become some kind of shit-throwing competition… I ALWAYS INTENDED TO DEFEND MY CULTURE.
Anyways, this is NOT an apology (and please don’t get hung up on this line) it is an explanation as to where I was coming from when I would respond to various entries.
Alright, I don’t know if this makes any sense at all, but here it is: unedited!
Comment by pappy — July 16, 2009 @ 4:28 am |
Pappy
Now who is becoming melodramatic, yawn!!!!!
Comment by anon — July 26, 2009 @ 4:33 pm |
Sorry to say but i think your views on certain Romanian national traits are spot on. I’m Irish and married a Romanian woman who thinks of noone but herself. She has made life a living hell for everyone she befriends, takes what she can get and casts them aside without a second thought. Of course its everybody else’s fault in her mind. I know she has had a tough childhood living in Romania but I have never met a more self centred, devious, jealous lying person, i could go on and on but i believe she is a product of the Romanian system of corruption and poverty which forces people to lose their ethics and morals in order to survive. I could be wrong though.
Comment by Jordan — September 27, 2009 @ 11:08 pm |
well jordan, let’s put it this way: growing up ’round eastern europe is kinda’ though. but, the whole responsibility of her actions belongs to you wife, or ex-wife, or w/e. wanna know why? because, if you look closer, every nation has it own people that act like her. not with the physical possessions, or at least not with those, but with feelings and emotions. by the way, just for the record, i will use this opportunity to bitch-slap, once again, the owner of this blog, for being an “idiot”. because she acts like one when she says bad things by a whole nation, thus using a generalization, a stupid rookie mistake. wouldn’t you agree on that, jordan?
Comment by dracidus — September 28, 2009 @ 2:38 pm |
oh, btw, what i wanted to say earlier that it’s your ex/wife’s responsibility, because, in the face of law, not romania is responsible for her mistakes, but herself. hope you’ll get it that there are nice, kind, romanians. indeed the numbers are falling the day that passes by, but, yet again, there are many western countries that act like idiots, in different situations.
Comment by dracidus — September 28, 2009 @ 2:41 pm |
I really emphasize with people who have a tough life, my god coming from Ireland i can really identify with that and i don’t mean to generalise or catergorise a whole nation. I’m absolutely sure there are good (and bad) people in Romania just like there are all over the world. Of course she is responsible for her own actions but how much of an impact has her childhood in Romania had on her personality. What she has told me about growing up in Romania during and after communist time has been shocking. Seems people had to do what they had to do in order to survive. Thanks for you comments though you seem a very level headed person.
Comment by Jordan — September 29, 2009 @ 12:12 am |
If you could explain what does the expression “level headed person” means, it would be very nice of you. By the way, in my comment, there weren’t any comments about what you meant, just mean arrows towards the blog owner:)
Comment by dracidus — September 29, 2009 @ 7:48 pm |
“level headed” means “sensible”
Thanks again for taking the time to comment. I would still like to hear your views on some of the other things i said, i guess i’m trying to get some sort of understanding on my own experience.
Comment by Jordan — September 29, 2009 @ 9:11 pm |
I’d like to continue sharing experiences with you, because I’m interested of what happened in Northern Ireland from the ’50’s to the Good Friday Agreement. If you would like to do so, add me on Y!msgr at heart_asasin@yahoo.com
Comment by dracidus — September 29, 2009 @ 9:59 pm |
Wow it’d take me some time to explain what happened during that period but i’ll give it a go if you’re really interested.
Comment by Jordan — September 30, 2009 @ 12:38 am |
My dear Claudia,you represent the typical romanian.
Everything i read anywhere at any time romanians bitch about something…”we cant do…” ,”how come the germans are like that and we cant”, “the brits are like…and we just cant..”,”what a terrible song,i cant believe this band is romanian like me” and so on…
Romanians just cant stop for a second and say something nice about themselves or their countrymen,always criticizing to the point of absurd…just read the dialog battles going on between romanians on the internet.
They like to punish themselves with verbal abuse,and most of all to not recognise the value of their own people.Usually aknowledgement has to come from abroad before voices start praising anyone or anything romanian.
If there’s one thing more true than anything about romanians(which i learned as a native) is that everyone’s a critic and melodrama is the norm…in reality critics beeing few far in between.
What you wrote wasnt about the elite leading the country it was a general statement about all romanians which i take offence,seeing how i have relatives in Italy,US,Romania and i live in Spain and in all cases we like interacting with the other romanians where we live.Most are decent ppl,hard working,altruistical.
When i first moved to Spain the company i had to work for screwed me over and i stayed 3 months with a romanian couple until i got a job in the same field and i could move in my own apartment.How’s that for not helping each other?
May i dare ask how have you changed our nation’s path by your actions?…apart from pointing the obvious and sometimes wrong or old conceptions.(oh and dont ask me how i fair in that regard,because i dont bitch around the internet trying to form opinions).
Comment by alanni — December 20, 2009 @ 3:10 am |