I was born in Romania and am of ethnic Hungarian, unfortunately…I never liked Romanians and I never will. Liars, thieves they got it all in their genes, they are the plague of Europe!
Comment by Another Romanian — April 10, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
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Then you must be really stupid…if you can judge an entire country so quickly! I hope you moved to another country…we do not need hateful people…no matter their ethnic background!
A Romanian
Comment by Mirela — April 14, 2007 @ 5:38 pm |
Nice blog!
Comment by Livette — April 17, 2007 @ 9:10 am |
Don’t worry, Romanians never liked Hungarians and they never will. Liars (about the history), thieves (they just want more land – part of Romania, part of Slovakia etc.) they got it all in their genes, they are the barbarians of Europe!
Comment by Shumi — April 20, 2007 @ 12:40 pm |
Ooouuu you’re so stupid remember that in spite of you’re ethnic you will always be a Romanian,you will never change that and in the only thing in what you’re different with the rest of the Romanians it’s you’re racist education.
So what you really hate,the Romanians, really ? do you hate yourself?
Think it twice before writing this stupidities.
-by the way Hungarians aren’t so loved in Europe like you think so
Comment by respondig to this dumb — April 23, 2007 @ 12:09 am |
Tour comments are shallow … Just go to a restaurant in Budapest (let’s say near the National Museum – an area full with turists) and see if the bill matches your order or even if what you have order is written down on the bill (except some numbers written by hand) … If that isn’t cheating …
And you can say that about Italians, Polish, Czech, Albanians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Moldavians, Ukrainians …. even Hungarians.
The truth that your hate doesn’t have a basis and if a I recollect well, nowadays Hungarians do have an inferiority complex not beeing part of an emipre or so.I hate to brake it to you … but you should move on… and live your life without having your soul chained.
Is it that bad, that the countries around you now have their own choice to the future?
And remember,if you have your heart open and you show respect, you will most of the time be treated good by a anyone around you.
Good luck! … And travel some more.
Comment by European — April 25, 2007 @ 8:42 am |
The nicest people I’ve met in my last travel were Hungarians…I must say that I am also nice
Comment by darian — April 27, 2007 @ 1:26 pm |
OK, azt hiszem te hulye vagy…
) I don’t say romanians don’t have their problems which we all know about.. I just don’t like aggresive and stupid points of view.. if you were raised like this.. shoot your parents cause they fucked up your whole future life 
Just explaining the guy that he is stupid in his/our own language
Saying what you said about the population of the country you live in and who pay for your education is very nice, no?
Actually there still is a part of the hungarian people who think like this.. usually those without too much school. I apologise for them, guys. Actually the only times I got burglered it was by “hungarians” right when I lived in M-Ciuc
Fuck this, we should be working together to make something better..
Comment by Sandor — May 4, 2007 @ 9:20 am |
well done, Sandor — that you took the time to post I mean.
These idiots are just a minority (imho, of course), but they are so bloody vocal that most reasonable people get so disgusted by this ‘rethoric’ that they don’t say anything.
So in the end we get the impression that this is it, this frustrated crap is ‘popular culture’, the real thing. Then comes a media guy, and broadcast becomes political line. We gotta change this.
Comment by tudor — May 6, 2007 @ 1:07 pm |
I don’t even think such idiotic comments are worth a reply. I will, however, say that your comments reveal you as a racist and that is a cross that will have to bear all your life. I feel sorry for you.
Comment by B — May 9, 2007 @ 12:08 pm |
I am a Canadian and have been living in Bucharest for five months. I have travelled Romania and Hungary revelling in the diverse ethnicity. The previous five years were spent in the Middle East in peace and a year in war (Iraq). I have seen the best and the worst life has to give. A Romanian family has taken me into their hearts and home and made me feel as one with them. I have never experienced this in Canada or anywhere else for that matter (not to say that its not there). Several times while shopping in Romania I have paid too much for an item (my ignorance) only to have the shop keeper come after me to give back the over payment I mistakenly made. Everywhere I go Romanians are friendly, helpful, courteous and kind. The only problem I have had in the past five months was while in Hungary. This has not put me off Hungarians at all, I have seen this behaviour in all countries I have visited. People are people evrywhere and in general all they want in life are the same basic things, a better life for their children and to live in peace. The fellow who wrote the original blog sounds like people I have read about from the Nazi and communist eras. He claims to be an ethnic Hungarian but forgets he is in fact a Romanian. Canada was founded by and is full of people of diverse ethnicities, but we are all people first, Canadians second and tend to celebrate the differences. I do hope this person never comes to Canada but feel sorry for my Romanian brothers and sisters that they are stuck with him. It really does take all kinds and I think he was who the sentiment was written for.
You have a great country and people Romania, the best is yet to come, be patient.
Comment by Ted — June 2, 2007 @ 11:48 am |
I agree with Ted’s comment. I am Romanian (born and raised in the southern part, went to college in Cluj…at times I felt on my cortex the bigotry). It is the same everywhere you go. It is called survival instinct. Education, personal beliefs, and the surrounding culture can “shape” it but never abolish it. I don’t have time to develop on it but this is my 10 cents opinion. BTW…I live in US now and is the same here.
Comment by NotSoImportant — August 5, 2007 @ 6:26 pm |
Where do you live now in the USA?…….just curious female
Comment by Jennifer — April 26, 2009 @ 4:45 am |
Hungarians in Transylvania (now in roma-nia) are NOT roma-nians, they never were, and they never will be! Transylvania was given to roma.nia in the Trianon Diktat of 1920.
Stop telling Hngarians they are anything else! It would be a good idea to give back Hungary all the lost regions of Greater Hungary that should never have left our nation!
Nem! Nem! Soha!
Éljen a MAGYAR!
Comment by Magyar Csaba — September 19, 2007 @ 12:57 am |
you history knowledge is horrible!
Transilvania wasn’t given to Romania, it was won by romanians at the end of the War in 1918, and it’s unification with Romania was realised not by conquer but by self-proclamation from the majority of population in Transilvania, wich was, is and will be ROMANIAN. I know you are unaware of this but you are denying the principles of self-determination of the nations. And I am sure that you were born with a romanian citizenship if you are a hungarian from Transylvania but if you don’t consider yourself a romanian at all then the answer is simple…GO TO HUNGARY! OR AT LEAST..SHUT UP!
Comment by Bogdan — September 21, 2007 @ 2:15 pm |
ACTALLY SORRY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TOO TELL YOUR IDIOTIC OPINIONS AS IT IS YOUR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH, WHATEVER YOUR IDIOCRISIES ARE…
Comment by Bogdan — September 21, 2007 @ 2:16 pm |
I wonder how are men in Cluj. Are they homophobic?
Comment by yor — October 20, 2007 @ 9:21 am |
Are Romanian men homophobic? What do they think of Asians?
Comment by yor — October 23, 2007 @ 1:37 am |
Dear Csaba,
Been blind and confused for so long is not true,
Let a woman rise the shit of your eyes from you,..
Comment by LZ — October 29, 2007 @ 11:37 am |
Hey…you that wrote the article…stop being a racist, go back to the history book and rethink you existence. Your brain has probably been damaged by either your parents who are probably the same as you or by some unfortunate circumstances.
If you are born in Romania, then you are a Romanian, your ethnicity may be Hungarian, but you are a Romanian. If you hate Romania and all about it that much go in your country which you are so fond of. But I am sure that they wouldn’t want you back. You know why? Because to Hungarians, a Romanian of Hungarian ethnicity is not worthy at all.
So stop crapping the Internet about how much you hate Romanians, get a life, become Human and you taste the real life. You are so into denigrating Romanians that you forget how to enjoy life. Romanians are as good as any other nation, belonging to a nation does not make you better or worse, is the way you become in your existence. I have friends from different ethnicities ( American, Hungarian, Romanian, French) but the fact that I met stupid and ignorant Americans, or Hungarian thief does not make all the people alike. You should know that and accept the fact that people are people in the first place and after that they belong to a country and ethnicity.
So in conclusion ( I really try not to be as evil as you deserve) stop for a second form whatever you are doing and start thinking straight. Take people for what they are not for what you expect them to be, and you life will be so much better. If you hate Romanians that much, then you should have no problem not writing about them anymore. Wont do you any good. You will only make your life more miserable that it probably is. And one more thing. Get laid and start living your life! It’s way to short to waste it with idiosyncrasy like tha ones you are writing.
Comment by The Toothfairy — November 10, 2007 @ 10:06 am |
Hey. I’m Romanian, currently living in the Netherlands and i have found out that people, once they go abroad tend to forget about their ethnicity and the conflicts that have fed their whole existence. First of all, I do not agree with people that teach you that your mentality is wrong. I can bet that most of them are racists themselves – not a complete generalization, but let’s admit that most people in Romania and not only have something against gypsies (personally, i cannot be accused of any racism). The idea is that what most Hungarians or Romanians are doing at the moment is to run around their own tail, pretending that another war would solve their territorial claims or whatever they desire. Let’s admit it, things are ok the way they are, we just go for more because of hatred that does not fit in any context at the moment. It’s just like we would look now at the Germans like they are Hitler’s followers or at the black people as a bunch of criminals. We do not have reasons to support such ideas, we lack the basis of rational thought. I have found here in NL a very big community of people from different ethnic backgrounds that manage to live a very nice life not influenced by stereotypes. I’m not saying this is perfect, but maybe we should see the relationships between us as people as more tolerating regarding EVERYTHING. For example, I could not judge my Hungarian friend and blame her because people of the same ethnicity as her are trying to ’steal’ land from Romania. That is not what defines her and that is certainly what i will never see in anyone. Nor will i judge a Turkish person for occupying my country or for killing my ancestors during the many wars in the Middle Ages. That is childish. That is going against the path we should be following. We are all people taht received an education, not savages, haters, flesh eaters. I refuse to believe that living in a community is that difficult. If students like me, not that well educated as people that are already working and have families and a lot more responsibilities, can make it, then all the others should be handling it better. And also do not teach your children to hate! Nothing differentiates you from another person but place of birth and color of skin. We all start from there and it’s all circumstances. This is not the way we can live in a globalizing society: not alone by separating ourselves as a nation on purpose! I strongly believe this.
Have a nice day! Diana
Comment by forget my name — November 12, 2007 @ 5:36 am |
Italian MEP Alessandra Mussolini, the grand-daughter of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, reportedly described Romanians as “habitual law-breakers”.
Comment by Alessandra Mussolini — November 29, 2007 @ 1:44 am |
hey, please don’t hate, appreciate. i am Romanian and i know Romania is somewhat corrupt but its a nice place if u know your way around it. and if u were born in Romanian that means that u are Romanian so don’t hate yourself please.
Comment by darialois — December 23, 2007 @ 12:48 am |
To the original poster and other Romanian-born Hungarians who hate the Romanian people or country.
Nobody forces you to live in Romania. You are free to go to Hungary any time, and that country is willing to receive you. Just leave.
Comment by anonymous — January 28, 2008 @ 3:02 am |
I HAD A ROMANIAN BOYFRIEND FOR 2 YEARS THEY ARE DISRESPECTFUL N LIARS THIS IS TRU BUT THEY CAN ALSO B SWEET PEOPLE I FEEL THEY ARE IGNORANT PEOPLE WITH INFOROIRITY COMPLEX BECAUSE THEY DO PUT EVERYONE N EVERYTHING DOWN THAT THEY DONT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND N R VERY RACIST PEOPLE BUT WHAT CAN U EXPECT FROM A COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS GYPSIES TO BE TREATED SO BADLY N B SEGREGATED I FEEL THAT THEY R CLOSE MINDED PEOPLE THAT NEED A WAKE UP CALL BUT IM PRETTY SURE THERE ARE MANY COUNTRIES IN EUROPE JUST LIKE THIS
Comment by an american — February 2, 2008 @ 10:23 am |
hahahaha…so funny!!!…ignorant and close minded? ok but you as “an american” should go and check your spelling, and vocabulary as well!
heh, and we’re the ignorant ones…
Comment by Bogdan — February 4, 2008 @ 12:17 pm |
Badly treated gypsies in Romania ?!? What is wrong with you, mrs. (or mr.) american ? They are liars and thieves and thrive on violence and give romanians a bad name. Very unfortunate for romanians this name “rroma” which has been adopted by E.U. with a secret plan, to confuse people and eventually dump all gypsies in Romania as their home and get rid of their filthy presence all over the world. In France, on their ID’s is clearly specified “gitane”. It should be done over here as well. For the next comment on the subject, please do your research first mrs. or mr. american. On hungarians, personally I do not even bother to have a view, I just don’t care. A small percentage in the hungarian community in Romania is having indeed behavioural issues but no one gives them credit. For a mad dog you won’t burn down the whole barn. And for “Alessandra Mussolini”… check your own backyard before making such comments.
Comment by Catalin — February 5, 2008 @ 8:10 pm |
Oh, the self-righteous people (i.e. the american, the fascist Mussolini, and the like)! Would you stop! You don’t know worth shit. Mussolini, check your history and see whether or not there was a time when the Italians immigrated to Romania (I think sometime in the 50’s…)So which Romanians are you talking about: the ones of Italian descent?
And to “the american”: don’t even get me started… George W. Bush epitomizes (is that too big of word for you, if so let me know so I can break it down) the ignorance and the mess the American policy has done so far: Iraq, Afganistan, the subprime mortgage lending rate, and sooo much more; all of which has not only affected your people, but has affected entire international markets. The world is a mess because the very traits you are accusing the Romanians of: liars, disrespectul, ignorant and closed minded. Pull your head out of your ass and put the that meth-fried-brain-cell to good use for once and THINK, before you speak!
Comment by pappy — February 12, 2008 @ 6:22 am |
hey american, how old are you anyways. You write like a teenager who’s texting his/her dumbass friend about some discounts on jelly beans he/she found at Wall-Mart.
Comment by pappy — February 12, 2008 @ 6:26 am |
before making any comments – does alessandra musolini knows to read or write?…Italy has the highest percentage of illeterate peoples arround 3,3 milions..hungarians are just naturall liers and major thiefs…some small examples: romanian old “ie” from 18 century – traditional romanian peaseants blouse found in budapest magazines to be sold as “hungarian traditional”..romanian music like “the lark”-ciocarlia – is sold on CD-ies as “traditional hungarian music”…romanian folkloric dances copied and so on…i saw in Duna TV the famous traditional romanian “calusarii” an old probaly thracian dance and they were saying that is hungarian ..and finally i found on a CD in budapest with hungarian music from transilvania a song called …”Alyunellu”..for romanians is “Alunelu” and “alun” means chesnut tree in romanian i am wondering what the hell means in hungarian – and of course on the back of the CD- mentioned that is “hungarian moldavian csango music”…i could continue like that for years but i don’t have time ..conclusion:
Hungarians are a nation whithout identity – everything they have it is coppied from neighbours(slavic,romanian,german,etc)or from gypsies-folklore ,towns,..etc…what is really bad for us romanians is they gradually stolen our identity and we should start to do something against this process.
remember:3 september 1944 – Gheorgheni – 138 romanians decapitated
Comment by forverde — February 22, 2008 @ 10:32 am |
Transylvania was Hungarian for a Thousand years
As part of the Hungarian Kingdom
As an Independent Hungarian Principality
As part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
Transylvania was part and parcel of the Hungarian Kingdom, or an independent Hungarian Principality for over a thousand years.
As an integral part of the Hungarian Kingdom, Transylvania and Kolozsvár was drawn into the Western Christian Culture Circle at the beginning of the eleventh century. The architecture of old Transylvanian cities, such as Nagyvárad , Kolozsvár , Marosvásárhely, Brassó or Dés bear witness to this fact. Besides a few scattered ruins of Roman fortifications, destroyed by the retreating Roman legions in 271 A.D., no sign of any kind would indicate a trace of an older established culture preceding the arrival of the Hungarians. Not even the legends, folk tales, ballads or folk songs of any one of the cohabiting ethnic groups suggest anything of this kind, except the oldest Hungarian (Székely) legends which date back to the time of Attila and the empire of the Huns.
If we examine the folk art, which is the most tell-tale expression of early influences, we find that the embroideries and architecture of the Transylvanian Germans relates to the embroideries and architecture of those districts of Germany where these settlers came from in the 12th and 13th centuries. In the same way, the folk art of the Transylvanian Romanians is identical with those of Moldavia and Wallachia, and they clearly show the Slavic influences, the Bulgarian, Greek, and important Albanian motifs, picked up by the migrating Vlach herdsmen on their way from the Albanian border to their present location. On the other hand, the famous art creations of the Transylvanian Hungarians, like those of Kalotaszeg, Csík, Haromszék, Udvarhely carry a basic similarity with those of other parts of Hungary, and clearly relate back to ancient Turanian (Scythian) motifs of Sumeria and Babilon.
Due to the close relations of the medieval Hungarian Kingdom with the West, talented Transylvanians found their ways to the early Universities of Europe as early as the 12th and 13th centuries. The very first student whose name became officially registered at the University of Oxford in 1193, was Miklós of Hungary, son of Kende, nobleman of Transylvania. During the 15th century there were three famous Hungarian doctors on the faculty of the University of Bologna, and one of them, Péter Pál Apati of Torda, later founded the “Free Collegium of the Noble Sciences”, established in his hometown, Torda, then moved to Kolozsvár (today Cluj) by King Matthias. After the two Hungarian Universities were established, Pécs in 1367, and Buda in 1389, many Transylvanians sent their sons there, some of whom, after returning home, founded one by one the “Collegiums” of High Learning in Nagyenyed, Gyulafehérvar, Kolozsvár, Nagyvárad, Brassó, Arad, Zilah and Marosvásárhely.
Due to the ecclesiastical domination of Rome as in other Western empires, the official language of science and administration in the Hungarian Kingdom was Latin. Therefore it was only in 1527 that the first book was printed in the Hungarian language in Kolozsvár. In 1598 there were already 24 printing establishments in Transylvania, publishing by that date 382 books, of which 368 were in the Hungarian language. There were 18 Transylvanian Hungarians enroled at the Wittenberg University in the year of 1586. Many Transylvanian Hungarians were teaching at famous Western Universities, while several famous Western scientists, such as Martin Opitz, John Alstead, Henry Bisterfeld and Isaac Basire taught in Transylvanian colleges during the 16th and 17th centuries. In 1545 the complete translation of the Bible appeared in the Hungarian language, printed in Kolozsvár. Shortly after, in 1582, financed by Hungarians and translated by Hungarians. the Bible was published in the Vlach language. In the 14th century two Transylvanian Hungarian brothers, Márton and György Kolozsvári, were famous sculptors. Most of their works were demolished through the many wars, except the well known statue of St.George in the city of Prague, which is today recognized as one of the greatest monuments of Gothic sculpture.
Thus Transylvania, as part of Hungary, became the center of Hungarian culture. During the most troubled times of Central European history, when the conflict between Catholicism and Protestantism set fire to the emotions, in Transylvania the Hungarian preacher and philosopher Ferenc Dávid (1535-1579) was able to found and establish the Unitarian Church, and persuade the Congress of Torda in 1568 to declare, for the first time in the world, the freedom of religion.
It is indeed not accidental that man’s God-given right to choose his own religion and to worship freely and undisturbed was first recognized and legalized in Transylvania. This was a direct result of the Hungarian concept of freedom, as well as the respect toward the freedom of others, which permeated the entire Hungarian state-concept, and enabled the Hungarians to rule the Carpathian Basin successfully for a thousand years. This secured free development to every ethnic group which asked permission to settle within the Hungarian borders.
Even after 1711, when Hungarian political independence was completely lost to Habsburg oppression, Hungarian culture in Transylvania not only kept in step with the cultural evolution of the rest of the country, but in many instances it became the guiding force of spiritual and cultural resistance. In fields of sciences, art and literature, Transylvania became the torch-bearer to the rest of oppressed Hungary. The same phenomenon repeated itself after 1849, when the Liberty War was crushed by the combined forces of Austria and Russia, and the darkness of revengeful oppression fell upon Hungary for the second time.
It might be interesting to note that the first English-Tibetan dictionary was published in 1834 by a young Transylvanian Hungarian explorer, Sándor Kõrösi Csoma. The era between 1820 and 1867 is also regarded by many as the “golden age” of Hungarian national literature, brought forth by Habsburg oppression. Many of the great names in Hungarian literature were from Transylvania, such as Ferenc Kazinczy (1759-1831), Ferenc Kölcsey (1790-1838) Mihály Tompa (1817-1868) and others.
In 1867 the “reconciliation” between Emperor Franz Joseph and the Hungarian nation opened the gates toward industrialization and economic upswing. Though economic progress was much slower reaching into Transylvania than in other parts of Hungary – due to distances, lack of roads, etc. – the revitalization of the Hungarian culture reached a new peak in Kolozsvár and the other Transylvanian cities. During the glorious years of the “millennium”, Transylvania proudly celebrated its thousand-year-old cultural heritage within the framework of the thousand-year-old Hungarian national frontiers.
When in 1919 the Rumanian army occupied Transylvania, and the brutal persecution of Hungarian officials, clergymen, educators and other intellectuals began with unprecedented Balkanic ferocity, Hungarian stamina was put to test. In Kolozsvár the Romanian army killed the major of the city on Christmas Eve and massacred innocent civilians of Hungarian nationality without any consideration on children, women and elders. The civilized World was shocked by the cruel and barbarian methods of the Rumanian army.
Within a few weeks all geographical locations were renamed, from cities down to the most remote villages. Kolozsvár was changed overnight into Cluj, Nagyvárad into Oradea, Marosvásárhely into Tirgu Mures, Temesvár into Timisoara, etc. Many names were simply translated, such as Disznós into Porcu, Medvepatak into Ursu, Nagybánya into Baia Mare, Szentegyed into Sinte Jude, etc. Street markers were replaced and streets renamed. Those who were born and raised in one of the Transylvanian towns, and lived there all their lives, suddenly had to change their old established home address to a new-one, in a foreign language they did not even know how to pronounce. City halls, court houses, district offices, post offices, railroad stations were filled with new officials, imported from across the mountains, who did not speak the language of the population. Huge signs appeared everywhere: VORBITI NUMAI RUMUNESTI ! Speak only Rumanian. Those citizens who were unable to obey these signs because did not speak the Romanian language, were refused service, abused, and sometimes even beaten by the new police.
The urban intellectuals of Transylvania suffered the most. Put out of their jobs, many of them were forced to leave the country. Others shifted into commerce or industry. Some of them became labourers, while many rallied around the only bulwarks left for Transylvanian culture: the churches, church-affiliated schools, and other cultural institutions, such as libraries, museums, civic societies, benevolent organizations, etc which were not yet dependent on the State. Rigid censorship was instituted by the Rumanian government toward Hungarian publications of any kind. In spite of this, by 1926 Transylvania had more Hungarian monthly periodicals, weekly publication, and daily newspapers than ever before. It was the automatic reaction of Hungarian national consciousness taking refuge in culture against the brutal oppression of a foreign and inferior civilization. Gy. Zathureczky writes in his book “Transylvania, Citadel of the West” (Danubian Press, 1967) page 46: “The Transylvania (Hungarian) Press, suffering under heavy censorship, lost its provincial character and rose to European level. The Transylvanian Literary Guild and the Transylvania Helikon gathered the writers and established a Hungarian Publishing Co-operative. A new and specifically Transylvanian literature was born. Struggling against poverty, and harassed by Romanian authorities, the Transylvanian Hungarian stage reached an unprecedented peak against all odds.” In spite of the brutal political and economical oppression of a Balkan force, Transylvania remained part of the Western Culture. Just as an Austrian journalist aptly observed in the “Wiener Tagblatt”, July 27, 1934: “Travelling through Transylvania one cannot help noticing that while the policeman on the street corner speaks only Romanian, within the walls of old town houses there is a very lively Hungarian cultural life going on, discussing with foreign guests Western ideas, Western literature, Western art, sometimes in three or four languages in the same time – none of which happens to be the language of the policeman down on the corner …”. Further down he stated: “The very fact that in those highly cultured Transylvanian circles everyone knows the names of German, French, English and American writers, scientists, actors, painters, but no one seems to know anything that goes on in Bucharest, shows clearly that in spite of the so-called ‘peace treaties’ the cultural boundaries between East and West are still firmly drawn on the ridges of the Carpathians …”
Even 20 years after the Rumanian take-over, Transylvania supported 38 periodicals in the Hungarian language, 5 Hungarian literary societies, and 12 Hungarian publishing houses. Twenty-seven Hungarian writers in Transylvania had one or more books published in foreign countries, while the Hungarian theatre of Kolozsvár was regarded by talent scouts all over the world as the springboard to fame for talented actors and actresses. Hungarian painters of Transylvania frequently toured Europe with their exhibits, and the Hungarian folk art of Kalotaszeg, Csík, Háromszék and Udvarhely reached the foreign markets with their embroidery and wood carvings.
In spite of the political oppression and the strong economical discrimination, the dominant culture in Transylvania remained the Western oriented Hungarian culture, followed by the German in the German districts. Those few Rumanian authors, poets and artists who were born Transylvanians, were absorbed by Bucharest and the “Regat” (Old Kingdom), and had no contact whatsoever with the representatives of either the Hungarian or the German cultural circles in Transylvania. The name of Octavian Goga, the excellent Romanian poet, who though born in Transylvania, became known only among Hungarians and Germans after he was selected by the king of Romania to be the prime-minister of the country.
In August 1940, when Northern Transylvania was returned to the Mother Country, it took only one day for such cities as Kolozsvár, Nagyvárad, Marosvásárhely to wipe off every trace of a Romanian occupation, and turn back into the thriving Hungarian cities they had been for hundreds of years. However, after World War II. when the Russian army handed Transylvania over to the Romanian government as a compensation for Bessarabia, all this has changed drastically. Hungarian publishing establishments were shut down. Within the new Romanian framework one single state-owned publishing establishment was formed to “serve the Hungarian cultural needs”, not in Transylvania, but in Bucharest. This establishment, named “Kriterion”, was allowed to publish only government-approved material, mostly translations from Romanian and Russian, and only a few ideologically sterilized Hungarian authors in limited editions.
Even Hungarian language Bibles, donated by American Presbyterian Churches to the Transylvanian Calvinist Church were confiscated and turned into toilet paper. Public monuments, statues, historic markers were systematically destroyed and replaced with new ones, reflecting the new Romanian-dictated atmosphere. Old tombstones were destroyed, ancient churches “remodelled” in such a way that they lost their Hungarian character. The entire history was re-written, and the newly created false “history” is systematically introduced to the new generations. Even those very few Hungarian-language schools which are still left to operate must teach this falsified history to their pupils, according to which Transylvania is the “original homeland” of the Rumanian people, and the Hungarians were the “intruders” who ruled the native Rumanians by terror. According to the law, the presence of two Romanian children in any school suffice to have the language of instruction changed from Hungarian to Romanian. In schools where the language of instructions is Romanian, the children are forbidden to speak Hungarian among themselves, even during recess. Those children who disobey this rule are severely beaten by their teachers. Since the Romanian government has already brought more than 600,000 new Romanian settlers into Transylvania from Bessarabia, Bukovina and other parts of “old Romania” while in the same time deporting more than 300,000 Hungarians from their native land, it is clear that there is a well-planned cultural genocide going on, fully using the “unlimited possibilities” and brutalities of a totalitarian regime. During the second Word War half a million of Hungarians and Hungarian speaking Jews were killed by Romanian Army and other paramilitary organizations.
In order to destroy every trace of the past, the Romanian government first nationalized, then systematically destroyed every old document preserved in Church archives, museums, libraries or private homes.
It is indeed fortunate that many of the ancient Transylvanian documents, dating back as far as the 11th century, were transferred to the Hungarian National Archives in Budapest, some before World War I, and others during World War II. Thus, in spite of all the Rumanian efforts to eradicate the past, the true history of Transylvania can still be proven by thousands of ancient documents and the traces of the once great Western-oriented culture of the Hungarians in Transylvania can still be found in libraries and museums, not in Hungary alone, but also in Austria, Germany, Italy, France, England, and the United States of America.
The Romanian culture is entirely different from that known as the “Transylvanian culture”, which is in reality a regional diversity of the West-oriented Hungarian culture. The Rumanian culture is Balkan-oriented, and specifically Rumanian, based on the history of the Vlach migration from South across to Albania, and from there up to Wallachia and Moldavia. It was brought forth by Balkan influences, just as the Romanian language itself, which is composed, according to the Romanian linguist Cihac, “of 45.7% Slavic, 31.5% Latin, 8.4% Turkish, 7% Greek, 6% Hungarian and 0.6% Albanian words.” Even today, the Romanian culture as such, has no roots in Transylvania. It is being “imported” constantly and purposefully from Bucharest into the Transylvanian province in order to crowd out and replace the traditional Hungarian culture of this conquered and subjugated land.
Future of Transylvania and its capital Kolozsvár is to return to Central Europe and to Hungarian Culture where it belongs. Transylvania was GIVEN to Romania in 1921, and again in 1947, without a plebiscite. This notorious Treaty is known as The Diktat of Trianon, Hungarians were forced to sign in Paris. Ever since Transylvania was awarded to Romania, Hungarians, Germans and other ethnic minorities have suffered at the hands of Romanian Chauvinists. They have consistently and systematically been subjest to forced assimilation and persecution. Romania is probably the most xenophobic country in Europe today. Romanians in cities like Marosvásárhely (targu mures) and Kolozsvár (cluj) are practising ethnic cleansing an a scale only seen in former Yugoslavia. Hungarians are subject to constant discrimination, Hungarian signs are painted over or not allowed at all, intimidation by Gheorghe Funar is carried out against Hungarians on a daily basis aimed at driving out all Hungarians from this ancient Magyar land.
Comment by Magyar Csaba — February 23, 2008 @ 2:53 pm |
Magyar Csaba,
So you like to pledgurize, is that it? Do you have ANY thoughts of your own, without relying on your Magyar propaganda?
Comment by pappy — February 25, 2008 @ 10:38 pm |
Magyar, at least have the sensibility to put some quotation marks to your long post wich anyway is a load of crap because it’s full of lies, but I’m not gonna write an equally long one to prove it, just point out some of the biggest:
the folk romanian art doesn’t show mainly slavic influences, it, along with the romanian traditions, can be traced back to roman traditions, and especially the byzantine influence later on.
When you talk about freedom of religion, you should include just freedom of protestantism from catholicism, but what about orthodoxy, the religion of romanians, wich was not even recognized until the end of the 18th century.
And finally, the biggest lie of all, the proportions of the romanian language, your source is very, old, a 19th century linguist, actually, the latest studies show a proportion of 71,66% latin words in the vocabulary and 14,17% slavic influences, especially if you know romanian, you know it doesn’t sound at all with other slavic languages, but it is very similar to romance languages like french, spanish, italian, or portuguese.
I could go on&on, but it’s not really worth it..
Comment by Bogdan — February 27, 2008 @ 4:23 pm |
I totally agree with the guy who says that Romanians are the plague of Europe!!! and I have first hand experience.
They are liars and thieves and the women are IMMORAL. Ever since they have been admitted to the European union, they have FLOODED the shores of Italy in particular, and brought much crime and misery to the host country!!
It is no surprise that ever since these criminals have left their country, crime rate has gone way down in Romania!
If you don’t like to obey the laws…get the f#@%*& out of there and go home to your rat infested country!
Comment by Tomas — February 27, 2008 @ 11:57 pm |
Italian MEP Alessandra Mussolini, the grand-daughter of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, reportedly described Romanians as “habitual law-breakers”.
Five Romanian MEPs have threatened to quit over the “sacrilegious” remarks.
Italy recently expelled dozens of Romanian migrants suspected of criminal offences, following a murder in Rome.
Comment by Magyar Csaba — April 6, 2008 @ 10:36 pm |
ROMANIAN gangs commit 80 to 85 per cent of all cashpoint crime in Britain, The Sun can reveal.
The staggering figure is contained in a secret Cabinet memo which warns the crooks will be joined by a wave of new recruits after Romania and Bulgaria join the EU in January.
The classified document, seen by The Sun, predicts a devastating rise in street violence, people-trafficking, prostitution, tax dodges and cash card fraud.
Referring to the accession of the two East European nations as “A2”, it warns: “The police have completed assessments of the potential threat of A2 on all levels of UK crime.
“There is a concern that free movement will encourage people from Bulgaria and Romania to come to the UK, some of whom may be drawn towards organised criminal activities already well established in the UK.”
The dossier was compiled by Immigration Minister Liam Byrne and EU Minister Geoff Hoon.
It has been shown to Prime Minister Tony Blair and senior Cabinet colleagues including Home Secretary John Reid.
It has also been flashed to the heads of MI5 and Scotland Yard.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article69407.ece
Comment by Magyar Csaba — April 6, 2008 @ 10:39 pm |
Hey Magyar,
I wonder how many of your bozgor seed are labelled “Romanians” who are part of your stats. You ignorant prick.
And Thomas,
women are “immoral” you self-righteous MO-FO
Comment by pappy — April 10, 2008 @ 5:07 pm |
What a stupid comment from a Magyar fuck! Go fuck yourself you hungarian cunt! You Bozgor bastards are the plague of Europe! Just fuck off and die! cunts like you piss me off!
Comment by Tony — April 15, 2008 @ 8:26 pm |
To Magyar Csaba,
British paedophiles go to Bucharest to rape street kids!
Crime in the UK / Italy by so called ‘Romanians’ are generally by Gypsies who I consider to be sub human scum and should be exterminated! Thse cunts give Romania a bad name abroad. I hate these Tiganii cunts almost as much if not more than Magyars! (Which is difficult I may add!)
Anyway, fuck you!
Transylvania for the Romanians! We got it back! Tough shit! No stop crying and fuck off!
Comment by Tony — April 15, 2008 @ 8:33 pm |
To american,
Stop crying you stupid slut and get over it!
Your country is a fucking danger to the world! Gun ridden crack den! Even your armed forces get wacked out on drugs before killing women and kids in Iraq! You are just a fucking joke! fuck up! American bastard!
Comment by Tony — April 15, 2008 @ 8:38 pm |
Hungarians are like gypsies. They are all frustrated people.
Comment by Catalin — May 30, 2008 @ 11:28 pm |
Haha… gypsies are frustrated?! and what about post communist intellectuals regardless of their nationality who think they are martyrs of the society just because their puritan ethic is simply outfashioned!!! watch more Kusturica ( Time of Gypses, Underground ), eat more Pljeskavica , make love …and for those who don’t like the savours and are still bloody frustrated, just FUCK OFF!
Comment by zsofia — May 31, 2008 @ 3:16 pm |
It’s not the Romanians that are awful, it’s the GYPSIES that are awful. They are the liars, the cheats, the sluts and the thieves of not only Romanian, but Europe as a whole. Romanians are ethnically pulled from the ancient pillars of Europe, being the Italians and Grecian.
Comment by Gabrielle — June 4, 2008 @ 1:30 am |
romanian cleaner aged 26 nice looking started work in our apartment (met her through friend recommendation, ‘nice family’) we ended up having a ’story’ kinda but I was never allowed to stay at her house out of town where she claimed lived her aunt, uncle and 2 kids but she could never stay over at mine either past 6pm. always had to give her money when we met, not so much but anywa turns out that her ‘uncle’ was her lover, the kids were hers and her aunt was non-existent. gotta love romanians! i’m in rome, italy
Comment by romeboy — June 14, 2008 @ 5:45 pm |
have been married to a romanian for 11 years.
He is a liar and a cheat. Worse he ever did was steal from me and our children so he could disapear to his hometown with all our savings (plus watever he could get into his suitcase including our passports,my daughters mobile phone and ipod). I had no idea this was happening but he had been planning this for months = took loans out etc etc for which the debtmen are chasing me. He even got a new (younger of course) fellow romanian girlfriend lined up.
Found out since he first cheated on me 10 yrs ago when our daughter was 6 months old and we took her to Romania to be christened (silly me trying to include his family). Anyway he disapeared one night – told me he fancied a drink and bumped into some old frinds so stayed out and I believed him! Not a clue – turns out he was shagging the young girl from the flat below who I thoughtwas sooooooooo nice and friendly – playing with our baby etc.
I would never trust any romanian – all his family knew all above – young, old, male, female. Tehy never liked me because I am english – his mother even denounced her grandaughter as “she is not romanian. Ah well there loss!
PS – he soon came scuttling back but I did same to him – opened secret bank account, did my house up, focussed on work and got promoted. Took me 2 years but I learnt from the master – revenge was soooooooooo sweet!
We are now seperated – he has nothing, his kids hate him and he has taught me lots.
Comment by debbie — June 19, 2008 @ 4:28 pm |
Oh Debbie,
What happened to you says more about you (and your kind) than it says about your motherfucking ex-husband. For people like you and your ex there are tv shows named after (Jerry Springer, Dr. Phil).
You are naive and a retard (when it comes to relationships), and mark my words: It will happen to you again, because you’re that type. Your type attracts motherfuckers, whether they’re Romanians, Chinese, or Fucking Martians.
So stop attacking Romanians… Actually what has he taught you? Because maybe he has taught you to be street smart and how to read the “red flags”. If that’s the case, I take everything back that I said above. But if you’re suggesting that he has taught you lots about Romanians, then you’re jumping on the hate-romanians-bandwagon and that’s pathetic.
Have a nice day…
Comment by pappy — June 20, 2008 @ 10:46 pm |
Romeboy,
So you’re pathetic enough to hook up with a house cleaner. You bottom feeder, opportunist maggot. So let me get this straight: You got some tail from the house cleaner,who is trying to make ends meet one way or another. She is abviously molested by her old man, she has no way out, she is in absolute fear that if she doesn’t come home by 6pm, the fucking geriatric is going to beat the snut out of her, and she has kids to feed. You in turn have your mommy making you spaggetti bolognese (like all of you fucking italians), you have no job or obligations and your tired jerking off in your mother’s house, so here’s this poor chick sweeping the stairs to make a pathetic euro off your cheap ass… You of course, you haven’t thought of the fact that she is a human being (with dreams of making it in Italy, and maybe have a chance to take her kids and start a new life, away from the old creep), all she want is to have a sense of normalcy in her life. Oh no, she met your ass, who wants a little bit of action now and then. Of course, once you found out what demons she battles you didn’t think to do anything but to humiliate her some more.
To sum it up: you perpetuated the abuse. YOU took advantage of her, and reinforced to her that you are an italian maggot.
Comment by pappy — June 22, 2008 @ 6:49 am |
As usual, whoever pappy is, he just resorts to abusive language and slanderous comments. He may well have a point, but it buried underneath his bile and foul language. Pappy, if you are Romanian, your ‘defence’ of your nation is not doing you or your countrymen any favours at all. Try arguing your point without stooping so low
Comment by britgal — June 22, 2008 @ 7:13 pm |
Slanderous comments!!! Listen to yourselves! You are slandering all Romanian people based on your personal experiences! Am I heated; hell ya! I defend my Romanian roots and my fellow Romanians, because that’s all I have. I’ve lived abroad for sometime now, and I have seen experienced racism first hand: not just verbal, but discriminated against when I applied for a job, when I got an education, etc. I started for scratch and vowed to myself to play by the rules in everything I do and have. I come on this blog and all I hear is Romanians are this and that, constantly attacking the Romanian people for all being unfaithful in relationships, for all cheating, for all lying, etc. You can’t stand me using the colourful choice of words, I don’t blame you, but I can’t stand the fact that people like Romeboy who approaches a Romanian girl gets a lie or blowjob from her and all of a sudden she is a whore. You know what, you should also be outraged by a creep like Romeboy. Then, you get this Debbie sadass, who got her revenge from her man (good for her!) but made the educated fucking comment “I would never trust a Romanian again…” You’re such a sorry ass, lady!
Does anybody have anything good to say about Romanians?! Speak up! Share specific and personal experiences about the Romanians that made an awesome and lasting impression on you; how about that!
Comment by pappy — June 23, 2008 @ 4:25 am |
Hey britgal,
How’s your passive-aggressive type working for you… You hear only what you want to hear. I may have a point… Do I or don’t I! Stop being so patronizing!
Comment by pappy — June 23, 2008 @ 4:45 am |
Pappy, I read your comments. I don’t hear what I want to hear. Your vitriolic attack is there in black and white for anyone to see. I wasn’t saying that I agree with the approach or opinions of Romeboy or Debbie, but their stories were clearly personal ones and recounted from their point of view. I’m sure you will find this comment patronising, but I can understand that it is more than frustrating to hear such negative comments about your people. But your reaction is not going to change anything. It is just reinforcing people’s preconceptions. You are actually giving people more reasons to feel agrieved about Romanians. If that’s what you want to do, carry on. Of course it is wrong to make assumptions about a whole nation based on one bad experience, even if it’s a bad experience that lasted for 11 years!! But you made assumptions about the nature of Romeboy’s relationship with the Romanian woman, things you have no idea about. You made sweeping judgements about him based on what I guess is your ‘knowledge’ of Italians. You categorise Debbie as ‘a type’ and more or less blame her for experience. You are doing the same thing that you accuse them of, just you are doing it about Italians or women. I treid to make a point about your approach and I am called ‘passive-agressive’ and ‘patronising’. Can you cope with any kind of dialogue at all?
Comment by britgal — June 23, 2008 @ 8:29 pm |
Britgal,
When I see someone “barfing up” their ridiculous comments about their horrible experiences with the Romanian people, it only causes me to heave and barf at them as well. If you want to have an intelectual conversation about your experiences let’s do so. I am only reacting to the barfing and the bullshit that’s going around here. You throw crap at me, then I throw crap at you-type-thing.
Hey Britgal, is Debbie your friend because you’re definitely from the same country. Is this why you see the need to defend her, or is is because of same “vitriolic” feelings you have towards Romanian men.
Britgal, I am sure that for any bad experience you, Romeboy, or Debbie had, there must be other pleasant experiences that you’ve had in Romanian or with Romanians. However, you choose the former because it provides more entertainment and sensasionalism.
You said ” You are doing the same thing that you accuse them of, just you are doing it about Italians or women.” – well, I am glad that you caught on.
Comment by pappy — June 24, 2008 @ 12:34 am |
Pappy, if you read what I wrote you will see that there was no specific defence of Debbie. In fact I was very clear in pointing out that my comments were not intended as an agreement with her. And if that is your logic, then I must be half Italian because by your reckoning I must have given the same ’support’ to Romeboy!
You seem proud of the fact that you are reacting in the same way as those you criticise. Sadly your only defence is throwing insults at them. Somebody has to stop the mud-slinging, but I guess it’s not going to be you.
You will achieve nothing in this approach apart from maybe venting your spleen. In the words of a man far greater than you and I can ever hope to be ‘An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind’
Comment by britgal — June 24, 2008 @ 6:23 pm |
Okay Dalai-Lama.
Comment by pappy — June 25, 2008 @ 1:21 am |
One other thought: what is it about my comments in particular that caught your attention, when(as you can read above my recent entries)there are other vulgar comments thrown around from both camps so-to-speak (i.e. those that hate romanians and those who defend them). I don’t see you interjecting and rebuke them, like a old lady would… “now, now, boys, that’s not a very nice way to speak with one another. You made him cry, I hope you’re proud of yourself…” You see what I am trying to say here?
So Debbie is your friend.
No, I don’t think Romeboy has any friends, he’s hoping that someone will hook him up with his mommy caretaker. We’ll have to see what he has to say about this chick who escaped the slums of Kuala Lumpur for a better life in Italy.
Comment by pappy — June 25, 2008 @ 5:35 am |
Actually I’ve read plenty of your comments and gave you the benefit of the doubt at first. But finally got really tired of the same old pointless personal attacks and decided to comment….my first comment said ‘as usual….’
And it’s actually Martin Luther King quoting Gandhi quoting from a hebrew text… learn something for once!
Comment by britgal — June 25, 2008 @ 9:11 am |
Learn something for once… Hm, I speak your language, can you speak mine?
Well, you gave me the benefit of the doubt at first… It must be nice sitting up high on the perch, while the masses long for your approval…
Martin Luther King, huh… I was close though! Hey you’d thing you have a better sence of humour, but maybe I was right about your passive-aggresive thing. You’re just as nasty as I am, or worse – you’re bitter old hag, who thinks her shit smells like lillacs.
Comment by pappy — June 25, 2008 @ 6:20 pm |
Beautiful, Pappy. What an astute, well-observed remark. You clearly know exactly who I am even though you have never met me and have no information to go on. And just in case you’re wondering, that’s sarcasm!
Comment by britgal — July 2, 2008 @ 12:55 pm |
I am getting so bored with you, lady… I done talking to you. Even if I was right in ANYTHING that I said so far – whether if it was by sheer speculation or by inference, or by sarcasm – you would not DARE to admit it in any shape or form. I will not reply to any of you comments because you are BORING and PRETENTIOUS!You lack any sort of substance!
“And just in case you’re wondering, that’s sarcasm!” – you know, your blog name should not be britgal, but rather “CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS”
Go away!
Comment by pappy — July 3, 2008 @ 4:31 am |
A blog is a public forum and it is not your place or right to tell anyone not to comment. If you do not wish to comment, then don’t. That is entirely your choice – as it is my choice to continue, if I wish
Comment by britgal — July 3, 2008 @ 11:41 am |
I found this forum by mistake and I was amazed/upset/revolted about some posts. Just to remember some of you that few days ago 2 dead gypsy girls was found laying together with some italian tourists on a beach in Italy! They didn’t care… Italy in our days is reacting against the gypsies, africans, albanians, romanians… what a short memory for people who emigrated to America and ‘bless’ them with mafia, italian ‘towns’, ie. Maybe a specialist can better explain this feeling of superiority coming from a poor nation only 70 years ago, helped with EU funds to increase their level of life. I was in Rome in 1994, there was no Romanians at that time, I found garbage on the streets, a lot of italian prostitutes, waiters cheating in the restaurants, in our days a poor guy like romeboy think that is right to blame a nation because his sexual frustration. I understand that the forum is opened to all kind of people and sometimes is no sens to reply, but so much stupidity as in these posts is difficult to find (Attila civilized Transivanya
), Romanians are cheating because one unhappy wife was abandoned by a Romanian! by the way, go in UK and see the women!
Comment by Pitirom — July 27, 2008 @ 7:07 pm |
Pitirom,
“…by the way, go in UK and see the women!” LOL!!! That’s funny (and true)!
Comment by pappy — July 29, 2008 @ 1:12 am |
I for one am glad all the romanian gipsy criminals are in Italy now
it’s been more than two years since a gipsy kid stumbled over my car to wash my windshield, they’r simply GONE! vanished…, property value in my city (Cluj-Napoca)went up like a rocket houses go for 5-600.000 euro now, apartments for at least 1-200.000 crime is at an all time low, and I simply love it! 
)) I hope they stay there forever. Afterall these people are the crem de la crem of loosers from allover Romania, people who wore not happy here, who had no values and wore therefore social outcasts, people who left here to find the next place they coud suck dry.
Tomas dear, try to understand that what is going on in your country now is not withowt precedent, remember when all the loosers, dreamers, misfits, outcasts and everybody from town drunk to local patron in Italy and Sicily picked up whatever they coud cary and hopped on a boat to “la bella America” and did the same thing there, thay stole, they killed and raped more than history will ever let you know, and far more than any gipsy ever wil, and just like you hate these second class romanians, the americans hated your grandfather and grand grandfather… The Pot calling the kettle black, is it not ?
As for the hatefull, countryless, wanabee Hungaryan, remember that your kind and that of your iresponsible and uneducated parents, who failed to teach you how to atleast respect the land that offered you a home when your beloved Hungary woud not give you the time of day let alone a citizenship and try to understand that you wore brought up in that mentality because of your parent’s alienateing selfhatred brought by lack of culture and identity. You are as welcomed here as those romanians are in Rome.
Comment by clujeanul — August 10, 2008 @ 12:48 pm |
Well here is my comment on Romanian people (After having 10 years of experience with them)
98% of the Romanian people are liars, theifs and can not be trusted at all – especially when it comes to business. They are as all underdeveloped countries affected by the “Fast money” syndrom. Everyone wants to get rich fast and if it means cheating your family or best friend – they will do it.
Here is a good example of how Romanians are:
Once on my many trips to Bucharest, I met a woman doing charity work for Romanian Homes for abandoned children. She had during the last 12 years been collecting stuff in norden europe for the children and had been sending it to Romania, to help they children. When I met her it was her last trip, she simply was tired of it, since everytime she sent things to the children it was stopped by the customs personal in Romania, who wanted money before they would send it on to the children. Also many of the costums people took they things before it every arrived to the children. I think this shows very much how Romanian people are. They have no moral – and are simple theifs.
If you wanna do business in Romania, my advice is: Cheat them before they cheat you. Because they will cheat you. Dont every go to Romania and think you will find friends or good decent business partners. If you can not think like them – then don’t invest or do business there.
To me Romanians are a bunch of sad-looking and half stupid people. There are currently so many oppotunities in Romania and if they all had just a bit of moral they would be a able to build a very good country. But they are all so focused on cheating each other and getting fast money, that they are messing up the country more and more each day. I am e.g. now going to move my business elsewhere – simply because I am sick of liars and dishonest Romanians.
Peter
Comment by Peter — September 7, 2008 @ 10:13 am |
And what exactly is your business? Is it Vallue Village or Good-Will? Peter Pan move your thrift store out of Romania and try Afganistan or something, maybe you’ll have better luck with the Taliban. Hopefully they’ll cap your ass!
Comment by pappy — September 8, 2008 @ 5:21 am |
Peter,
As I am reading your entry again, I just realized that you’re a retard.
Hey I’d be curious to read your business plan, because, judging by the way you write and think, you haven’t had a profit margin in a long while. Well, at least not in the DEVELOPED country, that’s why you’ve decided to try the “underdeveloped” countries. So, who’s the schmuck, you dumb ass. You’re not a business man, you’re just another sorry ass vendor who’s trying to sell some Made in China knock offs.
RETARD! Yeah, somebody beat you at your own game, and I’m glad. I hope you learned your leasson. Get the F$%CK out of my country!!!
Comment by pappy — September 8, 2008 @ 11:01 pm |
I have found via emailing or replying to various people in Romania is that alot of them are full of bullshit. They agree to ideas and promise you the world but it is all false, for example Some of them email me first and promise they will do this, that or the other and never do it, when you reply back about the progress , they never reply to you again.??. Its like they vanished from the earth. I know there are people like this all over the world but I would say 7 out of 10 Romanians are like this.
Also when you ask them a question (no matter how simple its is)they cannot give you a straight answer.
I am not saying all Romanians are all the same but my experience with them is that they are ignorant, have bad manners, are self centered and basically lie about who they are and what they can do. This has left me with the opinion that they are not be trusted
Comment by Sally — September 11, 2008 @ 9:01 am |
Sally – I can only agree 100% with you!
To Pappy:
I have actually made good profit in both development countries and in Romania, otherwise it would be hard to own multiple companies in different countries. I think you did not understand really my last post. I did not say do not do business in Romania – I just said do it with extrem caution and expect that 98% of all people will try to cheat you.
Learn the game and you will do very good in Romania. Its just a shame its hard to play it fair there. If it was played fair then I am sure Romania would gain more from it. But since as also Sally says most of you are liars, then its impossible.
Don´t you think its strange that alot of people think of Romanians like Sally and I do? Or would you now claim that we are all complete idiots?
And don´t worry – I already moved a major part of my investment out of you “wonderfull” country. The rest is also on its way out. Now if you could please in return promise me to stay where you are and please dont leave Romania, then I am sure many of us from developed countries would be very happy. I would for sure!
Peter
Comment by Peter — September 18, 2008 @ 11:44 am |
And PS: Just so you know. I don´t hate Romanians. I just think they are really stupid by thinking that they will get anywhere by cheating and being liars. Thats all. But with time you Romanians will hopefully learn.
Not even Romanians can trust each other. How can and why should people from outside trust Romanians? I have never and would never trust anyone from Romania. From the other countries similar to Romania, where I have worked and traveled I have many real friends. All friends that I can trust. Strange Romania is the only country, where I can say I trust no one at all.
(Ohh sorry I forgot to tell: I actually had a “friend” once in Romania. He had been with the company for a long time and I actually at that point trusted him. Until I found out that he was actually stealing from the company. So that was my story of having “friends” in Romania)
Btw: Romania is a beautiful place to travel around – looks of nice places to visit. Just keep our money in the hotel safe at all times
Peter
Comment by Peter — September 18, 2008 @ 12:12 pm |
I would also like to mention through my experience dealing with Romanians (the ones that actually do reply to you) is that they charge high prices because they know we come from Western Europe or USA etc.
For example I wanted to access a Romanian News website but you had to become a member. They wanted to charge me 300 euros a month just to have access. Who are they kidding, if they were only doing business with Romanians, well they would not have a business anymore because the ordinary working person in Romania could not afford that amount per month, probably that is all the get as salaries to live on each month, after all they are one poorest countries in Europe.
Also I would not blame where they live as a reason(s) for their behaviour,I have met various people during my travels,going to concerts and so on and I would say that the Romanians are the same wherever they go. In Dublin they openly beg people for money and are only friendly if they can get money etc off you. For example, some Romanian women in Dublin walk the streets carrying small children and babies in their arms, probably thinking this would give them a sympathy vote when begging. They have no morals.
I would say though that alot of people from USA, Canada, Australia and Western Europe are a friendly bunch. My partner and I would have no problems asking an American to take a photo of us both together,they do it quite happily and are quite nice to talk to.
Probably if I asked a Romanian they would run off with your camera.
Sally
Comment by Sally — September 19, 2008 @ 6:25 pm |
Dear Sally,
you over-exaggerate and put too many things together in the same pot. The women begging on the streets of Dublin are most likely Rroma from Romania and they beg on the streets of Bucharest also. That’s a very specific situation and a very complicated discussion about the situation of Rroma in Europe and in Romania.
I can assure you that I lived and traveled also a lot and I am 100% ROMANIAN. I could not care less about some other people’s money and I can also assure you that many Romanians managed to make their lives -very well – everywhere. Of course, we all have to loose out of those who commit crimes …but that is the case in any nation. The situation with Romanians abroad, especially in Europe is that many immigrants of Romanian origin are the worst type that left the country.
As for business practices, there are dodgy people everywhere, here more so but that is changing fast. I keep this blog and I was very critical of my fellow Romanians 2 years ago but I can tell honestly that things are changing beyond all past dissapointments. I must add that I’ve met and worked with way too many dodgy foreigners: womanizers, cheaters in business, unreliable. Here, in Romania, most of the times, are coming also the worst of their own countries to make a good living where nobody knows them. So, as you can see, we must put things in their context. Always.
Comment by Darian — September 19, 2008 @ 8:38 pm |
And oh, I forgot: did you ever try to ask a Romanian to take your picture?? You’ll be surprised; they will not run away!!! You know, ridiculous stereotypes and bad faith don’t help anyone.L ook what happend to your country, if you’re American. It’s a pitty that almost everywhere people are starting to hate Americans. Is that fair? I would say no. I lived in New York for a while and I love your nation …but look what bad politics made of your great nation. So, let’s not jump to judge so easily, please!
Comment by Darian — September 19, 2008 @ 8:47 pm |
Darian
So my opinions you assume are from an American person. Well you have judged me wrong because guess what I am not American
All I can say is these are my experiences regarding Romanians and I am not over-exaggerating (the way i have been dealt with by various people in Romania has left me with a bad impression of what Romanian people are like).
I have never yet come across a Romanian who can give me a straight forward honest answer and Darian since you are Romanian could you explain to me why people in Romania never reply back to emails whether they are wrote in English or Romanian? (It is so bad mannered I think, to promise someone something then when you politely ask how the progress on the matter is going they never ever reply to you again. I have experienced this alot from Romanian people.
Also why are they so slow at dealing or organising anything? and why are people from the West charged more for things than people in the East. Just because we have a better standard of living does not mean we should have to pay more for the same service
If you can give me an explaination to my questions then maybe I can understand Romanian people better.
Sally
Comment by Sally — September 19, 2008 @ 11:55 pm |
Sally (the Irish, maybe?)
you don’t want to understand Romanians better, anymore than I want to understand why Peter (the blogger) is so full of shit. So drop the act! Let’s assume that you’re Irish, and in that case I would not stereotype that all Irish are cowards, terrorists, and that they are all IRA wanting to exterminate the Catholics. So stop with all this nonsense about most Romanians not replying to your emails – you sound so pathetic. Maybe because they can’t afford to access a computer or the internet as often as you can. Maybe because they work a lot more than you do so that they can afford to pay for the internet connection so that they can reply to your pathetic emails.
Why are they charging you more? Well, you have more money than they do; you have job security and they don’t; they are starting a business out of nothing at the age of 40, when you had or mommy and daddy pay for your education; you never went without food and basic needs ever in your life, while the Romanian(s) you’ve dealt with grew up in a state run orphanage or in a household full of siblings with whom he/she had to share shoes and clothing, while you’ve never had to share anything because you had YOUR STUFF. Sally, I could go on but what’s the point, you’ve already figured us (the Romanians) out.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND US??? So many of us have so many painful experiences, and yet we still have our morals and ethics, we are still loving and caring, without any hidden agendas, but those people may not have a computer or email, may not have any contact with the foreigners, and they mind their own business. You’re so ignorant about so many things to the point that you judge “all, every, most, 99%, 98%” or whatever the stereotype you’ve used and many others.
You demand an explanation to your questions so that you might understand the Romanians – you’re so condescending and patronizing!!!
Comment by pappy — September 21, 2008 @ 7:01 am |
Peter,
You’re an idiot!
Comment by pappy — September 21, 2008 @ 7:03 am |
Pappy
I think you need some serious help with you anger problems, I explained what my personal experiences were and asked if there could be reason(s) why these things are happening. But all I get back is just abuse from you. No I am not pathetic as you pointed out. What would you call it then when someone emails you first stating that they would promise you something,then say 3 months down the line you ask how its progressing and you never get a reply back ever. (Come on pappy what do you call this then).
Shall I point a few things out to you
1. I am not Irish and you have not got a clue about Ireland and its History (look it up)
2. I came from a poor background and my parents could not afford further education for me. I did have further education but I supported myself by working whilst studying. When I was growing up we did without food, we went to the beach to pick up driftwood to put on the fire at home. There was no central heating throughout the house and in winter the windows were frosted up and the house had damp. I used to have to share a bed with my sisters as my parents could not afford alot of things (ie beds)and we would have to put on two or three layers of clothing because we were so cold. I did not have a regular supply of new clothes and shoes either but hand me downs from my sisters. So do assume everyone in the West are so rich and are the only sibling in the household , all you have done is shown everyone on this blog that when it comes to sterotyping people from from a different country then you the most professional at it.
3.”Why are they charging you more? Well, you have more money than they do; you have job security and they don’t” (This is called exploitation)
4. Talking about growing up in an orphanage yes the West saw what growing up in an orphanage in Romania was really like. Children in cots left there hours upon hours with no love and no attention given, physical and mental handicap children left to sit in there own shit, rocking backwards and forwards. Yes in the eighties it was on all the news stations and the people from the West did not condem the Romanians for what they were doing to their fellowman but wanted to help them. I remember parcels being sent to Romania from the West and people coming across to help getting the buildings in better condition, bringing medical supplies and so on. (This is still ongoing today, where I live we get charity bags put through the door asking for clothing, toys etc for the people in Eastern Europe and many people but bags out laden with what ever they can spare) This is not people who hate Romanians but care for their fellow man and wanting to help anyway possible.
5. Yes Pappy I do work and I work long hours to put food on the table and a roof over my head. If you must know I work about 41 to 43 hours a week and do not get vasts amount of money either.
6. No I am not condescending and patronizing about wanting to know answers to my questions. My personal experiences have given me a bad image of the people of Romania. If someone else could let me know what it is like to be living in and growing up in Romania then we in the West would have a better understanding about people in Eastern Europe. But all you given me Pappy is a reply of aggression, abuse, judging me and Judging the Western people as rich stupid people who are condescending and patronizing. All you have done is reinforce the stereotypes we have about Eastern Europeans.
7.By the way I wrote “If you can give me an explanation” I did not “demand” an explanation. Finally can I ask you this Pappy if so many Romanians do not have access to Computer/emails as they cannot afford it. Then you must be one of the richest people in Romania as you have such technology. Maybe you need to help your own people and show them the way how to become as rich and succesful as you are.
Comment by Sally — September 21, 2008 @ 10:19 am |
why is everone so uptight
Comment by james — September 21, 2008 @ 2:03 pm |
Dear Sally,
I’m afraid I cannot give you explanations for this and that about Romanians. I may try though I might be awfully wrong about it.ț
a) ‘Why Romanians never reply to emails? ‘ – Well, I don’t really know, I do that also with my closest and dearest friends and they also asked me many times ‘why?’. I assume is something to do with laziness, a lack of understanding about responsabilities and the formal way to keep close to people. Not all Romanians are like that, but I know people – Romanians between themselves – who live in the same city, being good friends and they only spoke on the phone. I guess the stress of a new life, puting up with new realities all the time adds an amount of pressure that Westerners don’t have as much. I am not intending to say that you don’t have problems, but you have -usually -to deal with the biggest of it. Here, in Romania, simple things become extremely complicated for no good reason – so it adds extra pressure. I think. On the other hand, we come out of 45 years of communism, which means close society, lack of human solidarity, reluctance to participate in the social network, fear, envy, etc. That bad heritage didn’t dissapear completely from our mental geography. We – at least many Romanians – socialize because they enjoy genuinly but because they have to. And that changes the way Romanians relate to others. I am indeed really sorry that you didn’t come across nice Romanians -because there are plenty- but I also believe you that you didn’t. Maybe your job/environment was not the most fortunate, I don’t know, but I hope one day you meet a Romanian you’ll like. I only hope you will be relaxed enough to give them a chance. There a a plenty of Romanian quite famous for being too straightforward precisely because we don’t have a formal culture of socializing/networking and many don’t bother to be nice just for the sake of it.
b) ‘Why foreigners get charged more?” – Well, I think I’ve already wrote on that sometime. Is a bad habit, coming from our past also. If it’s a bit comforting I can testify that they do it between themselves too. If one thinks that the other is richer he will charge more. It’s complicated and my assumption is that is coming to the same root of our history: we didn’t have the right to property (it was collective belonging to the people – meaning the communist state); we couldn’t do business; we couldn’t travel. Now, that Romanian can do that the desire to have what Westerners had for so long is taking over. It’s some sort of lack of patience combined with envy and sometimes with greed. But, once again, not all the Romanians are like that, but I admitt is quite common.
c)/.’ Why are so slow in dealing or organizing anything?’ – Because, Sally, once again we are coming from a society who organized EVERYTHING for us, that’s why many old people have no antreprenorial skills, no initiative. Of course, the bad part is that they give the same example to their children: that the State, the mother, the brother, the father, the Church should do something for them – as it’s their obligation. Romanians, unlike you, don’t take charge of their lives: many live with their parents until their late ‘30, don’t have a proper job, having chidren with no job/house/insurrance, etc. Unlike you, in my student years it was ‘a shame’ to get a job while studying because it meant that you are way too poor and that is shamefull, etc. So, I hope you understand that these wounds of past heal in a long, long time. What worries me is the other side of the coin: many young people grown up in rich, easy money family have no sense of past, no sense of responsability and that is equally bad.
I hope this helps you a bit in understanding Romanians. Otherwise, it’s interesting that the old divide West -East is alive and kicking back. Nothing changed
Darian
Comment by Darian — September 21, 2008 @ 10:50 pm |
No I don’t know much about Ireland, that’s why I don’t go on a rant as to why the Irish are this or that way so I can understand – that was an example.
You lived by a beach! Yeah, I feel really sorry for you…
You’re the one that’s been stereotyping us; you’re missing the whole point.
Wow, you have a 40 hours/week job with 2-3 hours overtime! Holy crap, that’s rough! You take offense that I am stereotyping westerners? You said, “I would say that the Romanians are the same wherever they go. In Dublin they openly beg people for money and are only friendly if they can get money etc…”
I don’t know about me being one of the richest people…, but I do alright, thanks.
Whatever, Sally! Just know that I would not let you, Peter-pan, or whomever, paint us all with the same brush. It would be more appropriate for you to limit your comments only to your PERSONAL experiences about those particular Romanians that have done you wrong. Don’t put us all in the same category.
Hey, where are you from anyways so that I can really appreciate how morally right and just, and how scrupulous your people are; how much better you are than us. TEACH US how we should ALL behave. YOU’RE A NAZI, aren’t you?!
Comment by pappy — September 21, 2008 @ 11:04 pm |
Darian
Thankyou so much for explanations and they have help me alot in understanding Romanian people and their culture much better. Although I have had alot of bad experiences with Romanians via the internet which as I said left me with a bad impression, your explanations have changed my opinions and I will deal with the communication side of things in a different way from now on..
So probably if I need to communicate it would best via a phone or a letter as these seemed to get a more positive response.
I am glad you have taken the time to let me know, it was very kind of you to do so.
Thankyou once again and good luck for the future
Sally
Comment by sally — September 24, 2008 @ 7:27 pm |
Pappy
As I said before you need help are you taken your medication? if not you need some or at least get some counselling. I think you have some sort mental health problem. I feel sorry for you.
No I work 43 hours a week with no overtime (so yet again you got it wrong)
No and I am not German and if I was then I would resent be calling a Nazi (people whom call the modern day German people as Nazis are of lowest type of scum who have very little inteligence)Your kind tend to start riots and incite anger in people. Why don’t you just slander and stereotype everyone in every country on this planet like you are doing (I wouldn’t be surpised that you ridicule Romanian people as well)
Why don’t you look at Darian’s comments to me and my response. His insight into Romanian people and their culture has helped me understand what it is really like to be living in Romania and now I can communicate with Romanians in a different way from now on, all you do is vent your abuse and anger,you have so much hatred and bitterness inside of you.
So sorry for you Pappy and I really hope you get help soon, life is too short to be angry all the time. Take care of yourself.
Comment by sally — September 24, 2008 @ 8:06 pm |
Ok Sally, I’ll take my medication. Thank you for your advise and input, as it really helped me fix my mental health problem. You’re very insightful. You’ve helped me a lot.
I can’t help but notice that you have these odd hangups (i.e. “No I work 43 hours a week with no overtime (so yet again you got it wrong)”). I don’t care whether or not you get O.T., you’re missing entire argument.
I have anger issues?! You offend my people and my culture because, Romanians don’t reply to you as promptly as you’d like them to. You say that all Romanians are beggars, and that they’re all trying to rip you off, and not to be trusted with a camera because they’ll run off with it. So you tell me if that’s right and fair.
You’ve come to my country and all you’ve done was to criticize us. So I think lady, that you’re the one with the BAGGAGE and that your bitter attitude towards a people and a nation that you don’t even understand, decided to pigeon-hole us, all because of what: a few romanians aren’t returning your emails, some cabies ripped you off, and whatever else. You’re the one with the issues, lady!
And another thing: All that I have written here, I would say this to your face in a heart beat without hesitation. The kicker is would you pull up a chair in a room full of romanians and have the nerve to say these remarks with a straight face? Because if your answer is YES, than you are one ignorant individual, lady!
I could go on and on. I suspect that (and all sarcasm aside)that you felt very offended, upset, and frustrated when the treatment you’ve received from THOSE INDIVIDUALS. It’s not what you’re used to seeing in your part of the world. You’re used to certain sets of social norms and rules, and as well as LANGUAGE BARRIERS, and that the only “measuring stick” you have are those norms and rules, and expect people to abide by them, but the response is not what you’ve expected and you took offence – FAIR ENOUGH!
If you had said that, I would’ve understood and nobody would’ve fault you for that.
Comment by pappy — September 25, 2008 @ 4:32 am |
Pappy
Thankyou Pappy its great that you wrote a piece saying how you really feel without been abusive and I am very sorry to you and all other Romanians if I offended them with stupid comments such as the camera incident and so on. It was not called for and It was rather stupid and childish of me. Yes it is not fair and not right.
Although the majority of my communications with Romanian people are not what I expected. This as you say is probably down to a language barrier and two different cultures and when peoples experiences are not too good it can cloud their judgements and we then tend to pigeon hole everyone as the same in that country. But I think I am not unique in this, its a problem we have all over the world and we have all done it from time to time.
I am not unreasonable either if people point out like Darian said then I will take it on board and really try to understand and can accept other peoples points of view and yes his explanations have made me look at it in a different way and from now on my communications will be addressed differently accepting the fact people have different cultures and sometimes you have to just go with the flow and take it as it comes.
So once again Pappy sorry and if I ever travel back to Romania and met up with you I would be the first to shake your hand and say sorry in person. I don’t hate people from where ever they come from and don’t hold grudges, I am a quite a nice person once you get to know me, just get frustrated on the odd occasion but then don’t we all.
Take Care Pappy
Comment by sally — September 25, 2008 @ 5:16 pm |
All the best Sally!
No harm done!
Comment by pappy — September 25, 2008 @ 9:40 pm |
O.K. Sally, I could see you can’t distinguish an individual from a group..but anyway, hmmm, I live in Dublin and believe me Irish that I had to deal with, plumers, electricians and so on..never respected the time or the day they promised to come and fix the problem…I had a car accident and my car needed some reparations, but they were so poorly done and they cost a lot of money, I was furious because things like that can put your life in danger…I met many rude people, shouting at me..just because I sound foreign. BUT, I still don’t label all the Irish people with hateful things. Considering that some time in history it was “no blacks, no Irish”…you should be more humane and open-minded…
Comment by Mary — September 30, 2008 @ 1:31 am |
Mary
not sure what you are talking about especially about irish people?? I am not irish and never mentioned anything about the mentality of the irish,sorry that you have had problems in getting your car fixed. But not sure what you are trying to say i said what i had to say and darian and pappy have give me explanations which have changed my perceptions and now have a better understanding of Romania and its people. I have said sorry and realised that what i said was not humane and rather stupid of me,so not sure why you want to re open up something that has been dealt with.
I should be more open minded have not read my last emails???
Comment by sally — October 1, 2008 @ 8:42 pm |
Sally
Your comments about Romanians are apalling! First of all, you can’t differentiate between Romanians and Roma. I guess you were referring to the Roma begging in Dublin.
I live in N Ireland, my wife is Romanian had holds a very professional job and is educated to MSc level. We work and never received one penny ever from the state!I have been to Romania many times and have had a really good experience every time, meeting some of the nicest people ever!
I personally feel digusted by the Irish knacker travellers coming to N Ireland from the south, leaving everywhere they stop like a shit hole, starting fights in pubs and robbing our welfare system by sponging for DLA for themselves and their retarded interbred kids! Also, the Republic of Ireland only got high and mighty through hand outs from the EU of which Britain was a major payer! and cheap labour from Eastern Europe. I feel you should think before opening your gob – look at yourself first! Parts of Dublin are like a third world state! At least I feel safer walking aroung Bucharest and Brasov than Dublin, worried thay I will get robbed by some junkie crack head bastard!
Comment by Tony — October 17, 2008 @ 10:04 pm |
Tony
Can you ask your wife whom you claim is so intelligent to read the above articles from me to you as clearly you cannot understand what has been written in the last few months on this blog.
I am not Irish (have you got that!!!!) and see my article to Darian on the 24th September and to Pappy on the 25th September regarding my apologies.
So why are bringing something up what has been dealt with????
Just to point out Northern Ireland maybe under the control of England and receive the same welfare benefits as the people in Scotland, England and Wales but Southern Ireland are not included, They are not part of the United Kingdon. They have their own welfare system. So why would they travel to Northern Ireland to get benefits when they can stay at home and get there own???
As for DLA which I assume you mean Disability Living Allowance benefit for children and adults who need help with personal care or have walking difficulties because they are physically or mentally disabled and to get it you have to have to pass medical examinations. So are you saying disabled people should not get benefits, what do you suggest then, kill them off (you haven’t a clue about anything have you, what did your wife see in you when she first met you, I bet she did not admire you for your intelligence)
and oh its so wondeful to not have to have any help from the welfare state etc, aren’t you the lucky one. Boo Hoo lets all feel sorry for Tony.
Grow up you ignorant prick
Comment by sally — October 20, 2008 @ 6:04 pm |
i just want say to the idiot who started this post if you hate Romanians and adore hungarians please keep it here because the rest of europe will redicule you because you are a retard YOU MISE THE WHOLE IDEA OF UNITED EUROPE and live still in the dark ages i have lived in Bucurest and shortly for 3 months in Budapest and my best time was by far in Romania the people are 1000 x more enjoying life itself then the very cold only on money thinking Hungarians and 99 % europe knows the difference between roma gipsys and Romanians its time you realise and except the world doesnt need any more hate filled small minded retards like you …specialy when you defend Hungary in its own right i nice country but not famous for warm people and dont trey to correct me i lived 9 lives and was around the block more then you am sure ,i just was happy to experience Romania in my humble opion the pearl of that region of europe …FOOD IS BY THE WAY ALSO 1000 X BETTER
REGARDS
J.
Comment by fine in art — January 12, 2009 @ 7:16 pm |
I’m not even European and in my opinion having dealt with Romanians in business and socially for the past 4 years, I can say this:
Romanians are the cockroaches of the planet
They would step over their own dead mother to get ahead
Trust and Loyalty (in any language do not exist in the Romanian psyche or vocabulary)
They are ALL low life Gypsies and should be called Roamanians as they are all trying to get the hell out and can now be found in any criminally affected European country.
Thanks be to our government who still have strict visa controls for Romanian ‘visitors’.
They should put a fence around Romania to stop the bastards getting out.
They have no cultural significance or history. Who could acknowledge a history based on slaughter – icons like Dracula and Wherwolves and kids being raised by wolves – hang in there Romulus and Remus.
The women are good looking and should be used with caution.
Comment by Southern — March 5, 2009 @ 3:07 pm |
I have been to both Romania and Hungary and met very nice people and not so nice ones. I have read many of the stories on this site and i would say people seem to make sweeping statements about people in various countries
I think people are the same all over the world, there are very kind and lovely people, there are nasty people, there are ugly looking and beautiful looking people. There is no country that has more of whatever it may be compared to the rest of the world and to think this then you are just small minded.
I take people as they come, there people you meet in life that you feel happy to be with and others well not
Throughout your life you will make life long friends, encounter people who upset you, lie to you. If you are lucky you will meet your soul mate, a person who you will love dearly and want to spend the rest of your life with.
It’s your life and it is up to you to make the most of it, I know some people you meet in life you will dislike but I think to make sweeping statements about every man, woman and child are all the same in a particular country (for example, say are all ugly or liars then that is just plain stupid to me).
If you make the effort and be friendly you be surprised how many people out there are friendly back, no matter what country they come from
Comment by andy — March 5, 2009 @ 10:55 pm |
then dont ever go to romania again! dumb ass I LOVE ROMANIA
Comment by christina — April 10, 2009 @ 1:07 am |
Christina
who are you aiming this comment at? As was last person to write on this part of the blog, are you saying it to me? or the previous comments made before mine
I have know hatred for Romania or its people (there are alot of nice people in Romania)
so your comments must be for someone else (at least i hope they are)
andy
Comment by andy — April 13, 2009 @ 2:06 pm |
southern,
dude, what is wrong with you? don’t let your emotions get the best of you, and think before you write. You gotta check your melon, because you’re a dangerous fool. I can’t even begin to tell you how crazy and immature your comments are…
Comment by pappy — April 17, 2009 @ 4:12 am |
Pappy,
You are one pretentious biased asshole – and Romanian – to add to your shakey resume. You drift through this forum making judgements and accusations against contributors who have written about their experiences with your f****d up country and its socially diminished society. Have you ever stopped to wonder WHY all the other EU member states require Romanians and their equally retarded cousins – the Bulgarians to acquire work permits and residence permits? Your passport allows you to travel visa free through the EU, but the bottom line is obvious – nobody actually wants you – so you can visit but only for a short while then you better piss off back to your homeland. So get this into your thick skull – NOBODY wants Romanians and if you haven’t figured out why yet by reading the contributions – I am not surprised.
Now do yourself a favour seeing as you have your head shoved so high up your own ass. Check your infantile, childish commentary following other bloggers’ posts of their experience with your – as you put it – Romanian roots. YOU DON’T LIVE IN YOUR OWN F****D UP COUNTRY!!!! So pack your gypsey moth-eaten self-righteous bullshit bag and GO HOME!! When was the last time you were in Romania??????
You are a stuffing idiot!
Comment by southern — April 20, 2009 @ 11:25 pm |
And take that marvel of human genius – Christina with you!!!!!!
Comment by southern — April 20, 2009 @ 11:29 pm |
Yep! You’re an imbecile!
So the Romanians screwed you over, huh… What a cry-baby!
I’m not going home, yet as I’ve decided to screw over morons like you in your backyard! So get ready mother-fucker, here comes the Romanians!
Comment by pappy — April 25, 2009 @ 4:05 am |
Comment by Southern — April 26, 2009 @ 6:58 pm |
I have this picture of you sitting at the computer, and as you type you scream at the screen while your fingers tremoring. You’re foaming at the mouth like you have rabies, while your eyes at popping out of your head… You’re a CARTOON!!!
Where are you from? You’re not from the Southern States, are you?
Re: me assumming that Romanians screwed you over. I’m inferring this from your entry #88 where your said “having dealt with Romanians in business and socially for the past 4 years, I can say this…” and- this is funny-”The women are good looking and should be used with caution.” So you got BURNED! What a cry-baby!!!
Did I problems with my backyard? I sure did, but it would be hard for you to understand. Your low IQ, combined with your narcissistic personality would not allow you to even fathom what most Romanians went through sometime ago.
Hm, what else… After I was born they invented birth control… I wonder when they legalized abortion: is it before or after they discovered FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME?! Because you definitely have holes in your brain, dumbass!
Comment by pappy — April 27, 2009 @ 1:44 am |
I am a Romanian living in Bucharest and I find both Southern and Pappy both disgusting. Pappy you are just making matters worse by you attitude and you are just falling for Southern’s bitterness and hatred every time – it makes you look like a fool(you are a disgrace and a embarrasment to Romania.
Don’t come back we don’t want you here
Comment by oana — April 27, 2009 @ 7:20 pm |
Then kick me out!
And go ahead, ignore bastards like southern, bend over and take it up… Let this bully call you names! I am disgrace to Romania – you just gave this guy more reason to throw crap in your face! It makes me look like a fool: lady, you don’t pay my freaking bills so you don’t need to worry about what it makes me look like when I have the right to voice my opinions. You don’t like it, go to Russia!
Comment by pappy — April 28, 2009 @ 1:47 am |
Pappy
I don’t agree and I dislike what Southern says but you just keep the stereotype of what some people think Romanians are like alive and you cannot help but fall into their argument everytime. I have you no dignity or respect for yourself..
You are both the same, you are both narrow minded bitter sad pathetic people who blame everyone for what goes on in your life but it is you who have made your life what is (empty)
Keep your vulgar remarks to yourself, you call everyone in every country even Romanian people like myself.
Make you look like a fool (i’ve got news for you) you do that all by yourself everyone on this blog must tune in to get a laugh at what you have to say next.
I pity you and have no more time for a low life like you, so say what you want (do your worse) I don’t care.
I am normal your just mad arsehole
Comment by oana — May 1, 2009 @ 9:57 pm |
Oana,
Banuiesc ca te referi la intrarea 95. In raspunsul meu eram sarcastic si am folosit psihologie reversa, pt. ca el vrea ca sa primeasca o anumita reactie. De exemplu: “Ba, ce grasa mai iesti!” Tu raspunzi: “Nici nu’mi vine sa cred ce mi’ai spus! Nici nu ma cunosti, dar cum ai tupeul…” Si tu ai raspunde in loc: “Si ce!” Sau altceva… la care nu se astepta. Oricum, dupa cu am spus, comentele mele au fost sarcastice si nu literale. Nu’ti fa probleme ca am stricat imaginea Romanilor, Claudia a facut o treaba foarte buna in privinta asta. Multumeste-i ei, nu mie. Tu reactionezi, pt. ca folosesc cuvinte vulgare, si pt. asta ai dreptate. In regards to your comment: “I pity you…, I don’t care”, lady, we’re not married, so relax!
Anyways, should people start tuning in to get a laugh of what I might say next, maybe I’ll call up Claudia and work out some deal here
OH and uh… the – I am normal and you’re not – comment, that’s funny!
Comment by pappy — May 2, 2009 @ 3:46 pm |
And Oana, do you think that by writing “arsehole” instead of “asshole” makes you less vulgar, come on…! You’re disgusting:)
Comment by pappy — May 2, 2009 @ 3:52 pm |
here are two interesting articles on the web which are just a couple in amongst thousands that all the same thing about Romania actually the country it seems is lovely especially in the countryside but the Romanian people are just awful
http://killingbatteries.com/2008/05/bucharest-notes-awful-but-less-awful-than-expected/
Bucharest was pretty dreadful, but I’ve had worse. Naples comes to mind – and that hellhole Andorra la Vella. Or that time in Los Angeles, when I drove from UCLA to Orange County… Nevertheless, I won’t be buying property in Bucharest soon or even investing in a 10-ride metro card. In many ways Bucharest is like a port town, but without the port. People arrive by plane and train, then promptly flee for more agreeable destinations.
I’ll grudgingly admit that there are worthwhile things to see here, but having visited every notable patch of grass in Romania, I can say with complete authority that anything and everything in Bucharest exists in much better form and surroundings at several other places in the country. If you’ve only got four days, fine, stay in Bucharest, if not, you’re doing yourself a disservice by lingering here.
Though not nearly as demoralizing as driving in Bucharest – which has unbelievably gotten worse in the past three years – five days on foot in Bucharest could break the patience and love of Gandhi himself. Hell, just sitting on a street corner can drain the hardest man’s will to live. The incessant car horns, the dense pollution, people screaming at each other, half-dead dogs and filth… Vlad Tepeş wouldn’t last 10 seconds in modern Bucharest. The first time someone drove by with a cigarette in one hand and a mobile phone in the other, splashing him with a totally avoidable puddle, he’d completely lose his shit. If only skewering wrongdoers from asshole to neck was still legal, people would probably have better manners around here.Cops are egomaniacal assholes and drivers are worse. I saw a traffic cop and a driver get into an absurd fight over a simple miscommunication, during which the driver nearly ran the cop over with distain while trying to move on. I didn’t know who to root for. I quietly wished that a freak lightning bolt would flash out of the clear blue sky and slay them both. Meanwhile, other drivers being delayed by nearly 10 life-threatening seconds displayed their displeasure with horn blasts that tickled seismometers in Mongolia.
On a positive note, general attitude, respect and courtesy has slightly improved in Bucharest since I was last here. Though, again, this may have everything to do with me interacting mostly with pedestrians and not drivers, 90% of whom deserve nothing less than instant death or at least an indulgent stab in the neck from a cattle prod.
Furthermore, with a few notable exceptions, the hostel situation here is surprisingly good – the old standbys are still going strong and continue to be likeable, while new contenders are attractive and run with traveler interest in mind, rather than aspiring to extract the maximum amount of money from each possible guest.
Restaurants too were better than expected, though the instant, across-the-board 100% price increase since EU membership for the exact same food was a little off-putting.
There’s a lot of “new money” swaggering around town. Shameless, sickening, unintentionally comical displays of wealth and/or feigned wealth are everywhere. Designer sunglasses, leather pants, ridiculous hooker boots, Dolce and Gabbana-designed mobile phones, official, tricked-out “50 Cent” brand jeans, … These people can’t afford to order more than a coffee in the swanky restaurants they pompously frequent after paying 150 euros for the red shoes they saw on Italian MTV (on a re-run from four years ago).
People habitually buy cars more expensive than their houses and peel out from every green light like pole position hangs in the balance. Stereos boom, engines rev, teenaged boys covered in acne caused by over-used hair gel yell insults out the windows of souped-up Peugeots at people responsibly taking public transport. Though drivers often race from stoplight to stoplight at 90KPH, walkers paradoxically arrive at their destinations faster than cars, due to constant traffic jams. The irony, of course, is lost on most drivers, who drive for an hour to get home, only to eat a big plate of plain mamaliga (polenta), which is all they can afford after filling up the gas tank.
I was the benefactor of several generous locals in Bucharest. Young Romanians are quite friendly, smart and anxious to change how foreigners see their country. Sadly, Romanians over 35 are still largely selfish, ignorant and boorish. Bucharest has the best and the worst of these types. People that you want to hug, like the young man that first contacted me through this blog, who led me around the city providing arresting commentary and little known history for a full nine hours (and I very nearly had to physically subdue him so I could buy him lunch!). There’s also people that you want to flog with a with a donkey whip, like the tour guide at the Palace of Parliament who treated me like a dangerous beggar even though I only had one stinking fact to check, immediately getting on her mobile phone so as to more effectively ignore me. Never ever snub a travel writer, bitch. You will be mentioned by name during carefully worded retribution in the book for all to read for years to come.
Miraculously, some of the millions of EU euros funneled into Romania were used to actually produce helpful signs around Bucharest rather than being used to pay for new cars and indoor pools at certain politicians’ countryside homes. When I was last here, I drove in circles for an eternity trying to find totally unsigned central and critical places like the main train station. Yet still, overall signage is pathetically inadequate. Each location of McDonald’s has more signs pointing the way to the door than the international airport. Street name signs are often microscopic or completely absent, along with door numbers which disappear for blocks at a time. Even employees at businesses do not know their own addresses. It would be hilarious if it weren’t endlessly maddening.
Despite stalking the streets of Bucharest holding a LP guidebook with my name and beautiful, beautiful face inside, I got very little respect. You’ve never seen a collective group of people that so desperately do not want customers. One tourist office boss veritably argued with me about why they shouldn’t be in the guidebook. In fact, they were already in the guidebook, but they most certainly won’t be in the next one. Certainly this has something to do with employees despising the owners, but hey, I’ve got my own problems so spare me the collateral damage of your hateful life, OK?
A Canadian journalism student that shadowed me for a day was aghast at how rude some people were to me, even as I vainly tried to collect just a little information so as to make their place of business wildly successful with western visitors. I was accustomed to this, having just gone through this veritable spanking machine of insult-and-injury just two years ago. I think her aspirations for guidebook writing have been safely squashed.
This was a far cry from guidebook research in Tuscany, where hoteliers, restaurateurs and the like can spot a guidebook writer from blocks away, meet you in the street and verily carry you into their establishments, offering coffee, their grandmother’s handmade ravioli, Brunello wine and their first-born daughter’s hand in marriage. Despite the fact that I usually don’t carry a notebook, sleeve of maps or any other paraphernalia (just an easily hidden Palm Pilot), their ability to spot me coming was uncanny. I sometimes imagined that each town stationed a young boy at the outskirts and, upon seeing a lone, exhausted-looking, unwashed foreigner drive by in a rental car (all telltale signs of a guidebook writer), he would race to the church to ring the special Lonely Planet bell.
An Irish guy that I bumped into in a restaurant who claimed to live in Bucharest for six years, but barely spoke any Romanian, felt I was not qualified to write the book because I had not lived there for six years like he had and went on to prove his point with a pop quiz about where to buy the best steak in town and how to take a taxi to a popular restaurant. My answer that simply saying the restaurant name to the driver – the restaurant in question is a local institution – was deemed ridiculously insufficient. It was about this point that I realized he’d probably been sent to live in Romania, rather than leaving Ireland voluntarily.
In any case, Bucharest was a hard and frustrating nut to crack, but I cracked that mother and I’ll never be lost in the city center again. I’ll be back here for clean-up research in July, at which time I’m setting aside a few hours to take the Palace of Parliament tour (again) so I can torment that fucking guide with 3,205 questions about trivial minutia and publicly muse about who her father had to bribe to get her that job.
http://anthony-bourdain-blog.travelchannel.com/read/romania-what-the-hell-happened
Predictably, a lot of people either hated–or were deeply offended by–the Romania show. Most, I gather, are either Romanian or have traveled to Romania and had a better time there than I did. Quite understandably, no one wants to see the host of a travel show having a bad time of it in their country, griping miserably about how things went wrong–and how utterly fucked up things were.
But the fact is:
Things WERE fucked up. My Russian pal, Zamir, who had helped make such good shows in Russia and Uzbekistan, was definitely NOT a good choice to show me around Romania. I think, if nothing else, we made that explicitly clear.The “Motel Dracula” was, in fact, just as bad a time as it looked. Maybe we fucked up picking that spot as something to cover. Though it’s certainly representative of a resurgent, Dracula-based tourist industry. What we DID show you, at least, was exactly how awful it was–and how unhappy I was to be part of such a bogus scene.
The scene at Vlad The Impaler’s statue in Bucharest was not atypical of the kind of “cooperation” and last-minute shakedowns we found whenever we tried to shoot at a “typical” everyday restaurant.
Even WITHOUT cameras, looking just for a relaxed meal, we’d often enter a near empty restaurant, ask if a table was available–and have the waiter tell us “No” in the surliest of terms. WITH cameras–asking if we could shoot was an invitation to either an instinctive “NO” or an invitation to gouging. As waiters and hosts it seems, work on salary–rather than tips, no one really seemed to care about more business, promoting their business or even making more money. People are still uncomfortable in general about being filmed. Understandable, given Romania’s history that many would be reluctant to have their picture taken–as this rarely led to anything good back in the bad old days.
But to describe Romania as particularly friendly? Not really. I’ve been all over the world. Over 50 countries. On the friendly scale? Romania not exactly in the top 40. The food–on camera, off camera? Didn’t matter. It was mostly pretty primitive. Soups may taste good–but they don’t make interesting television. I could lie. But I ain’t gonna.
Which is really what it’s all about, isn’t it? Should I–when faced with a show that’s clearly going wrong–as far as depicting good times and good food–do my best to LIE about it? Put on my best, tightest smile and slog through an hour, yammering a lot of utter bullshit about what a great time I’m having and how good the food is and how friendly the people? You can see that on every other travel and food show. Or get it straight from the tap–at the Tourist Board. This show never pretended to have any responsibility to show the “best” of any place–or the “top ten” of anything. Or to even be diplomatic. I, me, Anthony Bourdain went to Romania. I made some bad decisions. And this is the show I came back with. At the end of the day? That’s what happened. That’s what it felt like. Period. Frankly? I think it’s a pretty funny show.
Comment by suse — May 4, 2009 @ 9:37 am |
romanians are weird,deal with it
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Comment by lisahottietotrot — July 18, 2009 @ 7:58 pm |
To Sally,
It’s obvious you have some sort of attitude issue judging by your earlier comments but at least you made an effort in your e mail prior to mine to show you at least have half a brain. It’s my right to make comments especially when I read about crap written by someone like you who it seems is not aware of the bigger picture.
Your last comment to me says more about your breeding than anything else – have a nice day!
Comment by Tony — September 25, 2009 @ 12:26 pm |
Ohh… yes, just one other thing Sally, you are a sad fucking bitch!
Comment by Tony — September 25, 2009 @ 2:35 pm |